> On Dec 26, 2014, at 6:09 AM, Steve Piercy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 12/25/14 at 10:56 PM, [email protected] (John Anderson) pronounced:
> 
>> There is a lot of confusion around the "Pylons" organization and I think in
>> general our http://www.pylonsproject.org/ website doesn't help alleviate
>> any of that confusion.  For example you can't even go to
>> http://www.pylonsproject.org/projects and get a list of Pylons projects,
>> this just redirects to Pyramid's about page.
> 
> http://www.pocoo.org does a nice job of being the *organization* web site.  I 
> think http://www.pylonsproject.org should follow suit.
> 
>> I feel we should decide which are "official" pylons projects and make it
>> extremely obvious which ones fall under this umbrella.  Off the top of my
>> head the following are ones probably worth listing under this umbrella:
>> 
>> https://github.com/Pylons/colander
>> https://github.com/Pylons/deform
>> https://github.com/Pylons/substanced
>> https://github.com/Pylons/venusian
>> https://github.com/Pylons/waitress
>> https://github.com/Pylons/webtest
>> https://github.com/Pylons/webob
> 
> Agreed.
> 
>> Now they all already live under the /Pylons/ organization on github but
>> there are plenty of less "complete" projects underneath that organization
>> that makes it hard to track down which are ready for prime time.
> 
> Yes.  GitHub is not a good way to present "featured" or "official" projects.
> 
>> The other big issue is a lot of these live under their domain, under
>> pythonpaste.org, or don't have a website outside of readthedocs at all.
>> 
>> I propose that we create subdomains for each of them and make sure to be
>> consistent on including a footer that mentions that they are pylons
>> projects.  This would be similar to how the Apache organization manages
>> their projects:
>> 
>> http://kafka.apache.org/
>> https://spark.apache.org/
>> http://cassandra.apache.org/
>> 
>> and how pocoo does it:
>> 
>> http://flask.pocoo.org/
>> http://click.pocoo.org/
>> http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/
> 
> Agreed.
> http://pyramid.pylonsproject.org/
> 
>> It would probably also make sense to try to maintain a more consistent
>> brand across each projects website as well. Allowing each project to have
>> some personality of their own will be important by keeping a standard color
>> scheme and layout would help people recognize a pylons project immediately.
> 
> At the last PyCon Pyramid sprint, we started doing just that with:
> http://trypyramid.com/
> 
> We went with Bootstrap 3 and kept it stupid simple with very few changes.  
> Thus if any *real* designer wants to take up the mantle, it should be very 
> easy for them to do so.

FWIW, 2 years ago Blaise and I worked on an effort that we, alas, never 
finished, to have a Pyramid-targeted landing page. I 
wrote/re-wrote/re-re-re-re-re-wrote some marketing copy for Pyramid.

—Paul

> 
> A page has only three basic parts.
> 
> =======================
> Project Logo/navigation
> -----------------------
> Content
> -----------------------
> Pylons Project branding
> =======================
> 
> --steve
> 
>> What do you wonderful humans think?
>> 
>> - sontek
>> 
> 
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