Ah okay then, cool. Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > The sound of an lp record is much smoother than a cd. > If i could listen to classical music without cracles i would certainly use lp > records. > /A >> On 14 Feb 2016, at 06:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Interesting. I'm not sure I've ever heard an LP record. So can't judge. But >> it does raze the question my mind, how could it compare to 192 KHZ 24 bit >> LPCM? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:53 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >> >> And that’s why so many people say the LP records “Sound” better than CD’S. >> >>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah and even though at 192 24 bit it's said that you capture more than you >>> can actually hear, it still is good to do so so you have all the data >>> points of your source. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:20 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>> >>> Ah yes, hearing frequency’s makes all the difference though it mightn’t be >>> obvious at first glance, its those extra frequency information that give >>> the music the detail, the depth and the added excitement of the expanded >>> sound stage, if this weren’t the case the studios wouldn’t bother making >>> master recordings using 192K or above sampling and so on. >>> >>> >>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Actually hearing does matter when it comes to frequencies. For >>>> instance when on the Twit network HD audio is discussed, Leo Laporte >>>> always points out that he can't really appreciate what higher sample >>>> rate and bit death does for the music as well but as he always says >>>> making fun of himself he has old ears. He's 58. So he says he can't >>>> hear what a mid 20s dude might. Pluss since he's always been in Radio >>>> and has had headphones on pretty loud he says that may have busted some of >>>> his hearing too. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:28 PM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>>> >>>> I don't knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and >>>> you pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people >>>> getting what they could afford to buy and that's fair enough as I'm >>>> in that boat too however I do look around for the good audio and if >>>> it means I have to save and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has >>>> proven its worth beyond question. >>>> >>>> Yes an open mind is what's required but all this wasn't really the >>>> point I was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to >>>> describe the audio difference to someone between what you hear >>>> through a DAC and most audio equipment and the difference is certainly >>>> that of night and day. >>>> >>>> You don't need good hearing to distinguish the difference though >>>> certainly you need some decent speakers or some reasonable >>>> headphones, you're not going to notice all that much with your $2 >>>> earbuds which a lot of people are perfectly happy with. >>>> >>>> Its like MP3 files I guess, they're perfectly acceptable when you're >>>> listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference >>>> when you start listening to music on CD'S and so on through >>>> reasonable equipment and the difference is even more pronounced when you >>>> turn on that DAC <smile>. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi >>>>> nerds >>>> speak out their minds. >>>>> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded. >>>>> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective. >>>>> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want >>>>> good >>>> audio quality. >>>>> TO be honest i don't hear some differences other might talk about >>>>> and >>>> people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i >>>> don't care. >>>>> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble >>>>> and not >>>> critisize them for having their analog system for example. >>>>> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough. >>>>> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus. >>>>> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word. >>>>> /A >>>>>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt >>>>>> about >>>> it in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether >>>> it be through a good pair of speakers or through headphones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually >>>>>> is when >>>> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description. >>>>>> >>>>>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but >>>>>> I've >>>> got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still >>>> analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top >>>> notch gear >>>> - and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist >>>> shops >>>> - then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one >>>> describe that in words? >>>>>> >>>>>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC >>>>>> enhances >>>> and expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail >>>> of the music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never >>>> heard them before if you've been listening to analogue equipment. >>>>>> >>>>>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a >>>>>> shock >>>> when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which >>>> handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC >>>> for me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting >>>> point. >>>>>> >>>>>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes >>>>>> to >>>> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone >>>> who wants to get into the DAC game. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the >>>>>>> Oppo PM3s but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par >>>>>>> with the P7s and would sound incredible with the HA-2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03 >>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very definitely >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6. >>>>>>>> Something should! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably >>>>>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and >>>>>>>> they sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even >>>>>>>> compared them favorably with the P7. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the >>>>>>> rest of the halfwits in this world behind. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest >>>> of the halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> ********** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >>> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. > >
