Hi!
The sound of an lp record is much smoother than a cd.
If i could listen to classical music without cracles i would certainly use lp
records.
/A
> On 14 Feb 2016, at 06:04, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting. I'm not sure I've ever heard an LP record. So can't judge. But
> it does raze the question my mind, how could it compare to 192 KHZ 24 bit
> LPCM?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
>
> And that’s why so many people say the LP records “Sound” better than CD’S.
>
>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 1:15 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah and even though at 192 24 bit it's said that you capture more than you
>> can actually hear, it still is good to do so so you have all the data points
>> of your source.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:20 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
>>
>> Ah yes, hearing frequency’s makes all the difference though it mightn’t be
>> obvious at first glance, its those extra frequency information that give the
>> music the detail, the depth and the added excitement of the expanded sound
>> stage, if this weren’t the case the studios wouldn’t bother making master
>> recordings using 192K or above sampling and so on.
>>
>>
>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually hearing does matter when it comes to frequencies. For
>>> instance when on the Twit network HD audio is discussed, Leo Laporte
>>> always points out that he can't really appreciate what higher sample
>>> rate and bit death does for the music as well but as he always says
>>> making fun of himself he has old ears. He's 58. So he says he can't
>>> hear what a mid 20s dude might. Pluss since he's always been in Radio
>>> and has had headphones on pretty loud he says that may have busted some of
>>> his hearing too.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:28 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
>>>
>>> I don't knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and
>>> you pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people
>>> getting what they could afford to buy and that's fair enough as I'm
>>> in that boat too however I do look around for the good audio and if
>>> it means I have to save and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has
>>> proven its worth beyond question.
>>>
>>> Yes an open mind is what's required but all this wasn't really the
>>> point I was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to
>>> describe the audio difference to someone between what you hear
>>> through a DAC and most audio equipment and the difference is certainly that
>>> of night and day.
>>>
>>> You don't need good hearing to distinguish the difference though
>>> certainly you need some decent speakers or some reasonable
>>> headphones, you're not going to notice all that much with your $2
>>> earbuds which a lot of people are perfectly happy with.
>>>
>>> Its like MP3 files I guess, they're perfectly acceptable when you're
>>> listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference
>>> when you start listening to music on CD'S and so on through
>>> reasonable equipment and the difference is even more pronounced when you
>>> turn on that DAC <smile>.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi
>>>> nerds
>>> speak out their minds.
>>>> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded.
>>>> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective.
>>>> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want
>>>> good
>>> audio quality.
>>>> TO be honest i don't hear some differences other might talk about
>>>> and
>>> people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i
>>> don't care.
>>>> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble
>>>> and not
>>> critisize them for having their analog system for example.
>>>> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough.
>>>> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus.
>>>> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt
>>>>> about
>>> it in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether
>>> it be through a good pair of speakers or through headphones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually
>>>>> is when
>>> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description.
>>>>>
>>>>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but
>>>>> I've
>>> got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still
>>> analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top
>>> notch gear
>>> - and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist
>>> shops
>>> - then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one
>>> describe that in words?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC
>>>>> enhances
>>> and expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail
>>> of the music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never
>>> heard them before if you've been listening to analogue equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a
>>>>> shock
>>> when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which
>>> handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC
>>> for me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting
>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes
>>>>> to
>>> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone
>>> who wants to get into the DAC game.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the
>>>>>> Oppo PM3s but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par
>>>>>> with the P7s and would sound incredible with the HA-2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very definitely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6.
>>>>>>> Something should!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably
>>>>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and
>>>>>>> they sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even
>>>>>>> compared them favorably with the P7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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