Just as a matter of interest, can DAC improve the sound of compressed files such as MP3 or do you really only notice the difference on lossless?
> On 13 Feb 2016, at 20:27, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > I don’t knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and you > pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people getting what > they could afford to buy and that’s fair enough as I’m in that boat too > however I do look around for the good audio and if it means I have to save > and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has proven its worth beyond > question. > > Yes an open mind is what’s required but all this wasn’t really the point I > was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to describe the audio > difference to someone between what you hear through a DAC and most audio > equipment and the difference is certainly that of night and day. > > You don’t need good hearing to distinguish the difference though certainly > you need some decent speakers or some reasonable headphones, you’re not going > to notice all that much with your $2 earbuds which a lot of people are > perfectly happy with. > > Its like MP3 files I guess, they’re perfectly acceptable when you’re > listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference when you > start listening to music on CD’S and so on through reasonable equipment and > the difference is even more pronounced when you turn on that DAC <smile>. > > >> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi nerds >> speak out their minds. >> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded. >> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective. >> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want good audio >> quality. >> TO be honest i don’t hear some differences other might talk about and people >> may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i don’t care. >> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble and not >> critisize them for having their analog system for example. >> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough. >> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus. >> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word. >> /A >>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>> >>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on. >>> >>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt about it >>> in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether it be >>> through a good pair of speakers or through headphones. >>> >>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually is when >>> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description. >>> >>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but I've got >>> this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still analogue >>> and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top notch gear - and >>> most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist shops - then >>> they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one describe that >>> in words? >>> >>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC enhances and >>> expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail of the >>> music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never heard them >>> before if you've been listening to analogue equipment. >>> >>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a shock when >>> I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which handles >>> sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC for me given I >>> have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting point. >>> >>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes to >>> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone who >>> wants to get into the DAC game. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote: >>>> Hi Mary >>>> >>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the Oppo >>>> PM3s >>>> but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par with the P7s and >>>> would sound incredible with the HA-2. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>>> Trethowan >>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03 >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived... >>>> >>>> Very definitely >>>> >>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6. >>>>> Something should! >>>>> >>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably >>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and they >>>>> sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even compared >>>>> them favorably with the P7. >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ********** >>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >>>> halfwits in this world behind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ********** >>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>> >>> >> >> > > ********** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > >
