On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually hearing does matter when it comes to frequencies. For
instance when on the Twit network HD audio is discussed, Leo Laporte
always points out that he can't really appreciate what higher sample
rate and bit death does for the music as well but as he always says
making fun of himself he has old ears. He's 58. So he says he can't
hear what a mid 20s dude might. Pluss since he's always been in Radio
and has had headphones on pretty loud he says that may have busted some
of his hearing too.
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Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
I don't knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and
you pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people
getting what they could afford to buy and that's fair enough as I'm
in that boat too however I do look around for the good audio and if
it means I have to save and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has
proven its worth beyond question.
Yes an open mind is what's required but all this wasn't really the
point I was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to
describe the audio difference to someone between what you hear
through a DAC and most audio equipment and the difference is certainly
that of night and day.
You don't need good hearing to distinguish the difference though
certainly you need some decent speakers or some reasonable
headphones, you're not going to notice all that much with your $2
earbuds which a lot of people are perfectly happy with.
Its like MP3 files I guess, they're perfectly acceptable when you're
listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference
when you start listening to music on CD'S and so on through
reasonable equipment and the difference is even more pronounced when you
turn on that DAC <smile>.
On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
wrote:
Hi!
Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi
nerds
speak out their minds.
I think that others might think of them as not very open minded.
I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective.
But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want
good
audio quality.
TO be honest i don't hear some differences other might talk about
and
people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i
don't care.
I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble
and not
critisize them for having their analog system for example.
I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough.
We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus.
Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word.
/A
13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice
on.
I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt
about
it in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether
it be through a good pair of speakers or through headphones.
Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually
is when
they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description.
You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but
I've
got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still
analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top
notch gear
- and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist
shops
- then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one
describe that in words?
The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC
enhances
and expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail
of the music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never
heard them before if you've been listening to analogue equipment.
I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a
shock
when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which
handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC
for me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting
point.
I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes
to
performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone
who wants to get into the DAC game.
On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote:
Hi Mary
I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the
Oppo PM3s but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par
with the P7s and would sound incredible with the HA-2.
John
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Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
Very definitely
On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6.
Something should!
Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably
reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and
they sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even
compared them favorably with the P7.
Mary
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