Fair question.

A DAC won’t restore the information that has been discarded by a MP3 encoder on 
a file however it does enhance the content that is already there so yep, 
certainly a difference.

One could also say that you’re able to more easily distinguish the difference 
between a Lossless and MP3 file when listening through a DAC.


> On 14 Feb 2016, at 9:20 AM, Richard Bartholomew 
> <richard_bartholo...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Just as a matter of interest, can DAC improve the sound of compressed files 
> such as MP3 or do you really only notice the difference on lossless?
> 
>> On 13 Feb 2016, at 20:27, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t knock people for having analogue systems or anything else and you 
>> pretty much summed it up yourself when you talked about people getting what 
>> they could afford to buy and that’s fair enough as I’m in that boat too 
>> however I do look around for the good audio and if it means I have to save 
>> and wait? Well so be it and that attitude has proven its worth beyond 
>> question.
>> 
>> Yes an open mind is what’s required but all this wasn’t really the point I 
>> was trying to make, I was asking the question how best to describe the audio 
>> difference to someone between what you hear through a DAC and most audio 
>> equipment and the difference is certainly that of night and day.
>> 
>> You don’t need good hearing to distinguish the difference though certainly 
>> you need some decent speakers or some reasonable headphones, you’re not 
>> going to notice all that much with your $2 earbuds which a lot of people are 
>> perfectly happy with.
>> 
>> Its like MP3 files I guess, they’re perfectly acceptable when you’re 
>> listening on the bus and so on but you soon notice the difference when you 
>> start listening to music on CD’S and so on through reasonable equipment and 
>> the difference is even more pronounced when you turn on that DAC <smile>.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 7:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Well, this is a good question as i am often very skeptical when hifi nerds 
>>> speak out their minds.
>>> I think that others might think of them as not very open minded.
>>> I am not a hifi nerd in my own perspective.
>>> But people know that i am very audio intrested and that i do want good 
>>> audio quality.
>>> TO be honest i don’t hear some differences other might talk about and 
>>> people may or may not judge me for that or laugh at me for that but i don’t 
>>> care.
>>> I think you should try to be very open minded and very very humble and not 
>>> critisize them for having their analog system for example.
>>> I know you do but maybe they do not think you are humble enough.
>>> We are talking about audio like an evangelist talks about Jesus.
>>> Its like a religion where evrything we might say is the very word.
>>> /A
>>>> 13 feb. 2016 kl. 20:02 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a question which someone might be able to give me some advice on.
>>>> 
>>>> I've been using DAC'S for nearly 3 years now and there's no doubt about it 
>>>> in my mind that they do truly enhance the music listening whether it be 
>>>> through a good pair of speakers or through headphones.
>>>> 
>>>> Okay fine so how do you tell someone just how good a DAC actually is when 
>>>> they're stuck in "The Analogue World" for want of a better description.
>>>> 
>>>> You tell them about your DAC and they say something like, "Yep but I've 
>>>> got this CD player or that Sound Card", fact is though that its still 
>>>> analogue and - unless you've gone out of your way to buy some top notch 
>>>> gear - and most people don't as they don't walk into Hi-Fi specialist 
>>>> shops - then they just have no idea what they're missing so how does one 
>>>> describe that in words?
>>>> 
>>>> The only really good description I can think of is that a DAC enhances and 
>>>> expands the sound stage - in other words you get far more detail of the 
>>>> music -, the instruments are heard as you've most likely never heard them 
>>>> before if you've been listening to analogue equipment.
>>>> 
>>>> I went looking for a DAC for someone last night and even I got a shock 
>>>> when I saw the prices they were selling for, one can buy a DAC which 
>>>> handles sampling rates from 32-96KHZ for $40 Australian, not the DAC for 
>>>> me given I have 192KHZ/24 Bit material here but its a good starting point.
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt whether it would come anywhere near my Rotel when it comes to 
>>>> performance and the like but again, a good starting point for anyone who 
>>>> wants to get into the DAC game.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 14/02/2016 5:49 AM, John Gurd wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you would notice a massive difference. I haven't heard the Oppo 
>>>>> PM3s
>>>>> but judging by the reviews they are certainly on a par with the P7s and
>>>>> would sound incredible with the HA-2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>>> Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: 13 February 2016 18:03
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Oppo HA--2 just arrived...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very definitely
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2016, at 5:01 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting. I wonder if it would help the sound on my Nexus 6.
>>>>>> Something should!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oppo makes a pair of headphones that seem to be quite favorably
>>>>>> reviewed, at least by amazon purchasers. These are the pm-3, and they
>>>>>> sell for a cool 400 bucks, so not cheap. One reviewer even compared
>>>>>> them favorably with the P7.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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