On Mar 28, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Sander Steffann <san...@steffann.nl> wrote:

> Hi Owen,
> 
>> I, for one, would not want to start having to pay RIPE-level fees.
>> 
>> ARIN fees are a much better deal than RIPE fees.
> 
> Only up to Small... The RIPE NCC membership fee is €1750 (±$2400 currently) 
> for everybody. The ARIN fees are between $500 and $32000, with category Small 
> at $2000 and Medium at $4000. I personally am glad about this (although in 
> ARIN I would probably be Small) because it doesn't give operators any 
> financial incentive to stingy when giving their customers IPv6 prefixes.
> 
> If you want to give a million customers a /48 it is not going to cost you 
> more then giving them a /60. IPv6 resources are not such a scarce resource 
> compared to IPv4, so differentiating price based on the amount of integers 
> you need doesn't make much sense in the current world anymore :)
> 
> But: this is all RIPE NCC members/AGM stuff, independent of the RIPE 
> community and its working groups. (well the RIPE NCC facilitates the RIPE 
> meetings (note: RIPE meeting, not RIPE NCC meeting) and without the help of 
> the NCC the RIPE community wouldn't have such well organised meetings. The 
> NCC only facilitates though, it doesn't control or influence the RIPE working 
> groups) and the structure of the RIPE working groups was what Randy was 
> referring to.



Compare and contrast the costs of being a PI holding end-user in the RIPE 
region to those in the ARIN region and the difference becomes much more 
noticeable.

Owen


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