So Sartesian - you say "Fuck you all" - meaning I suppose the moderators.
Well it is quite within your right and given your outstanding skills - your 
clear capability - to leave this list if you so choose.
Dennis limits himself to one added sin of the Catholic Church. That is very 
restrained of him, because there are several other historical ones that could 
be noted - including the one that David Walters noted on slavery. And indeed - 
he is quite capable himself of leaving as well should he so choose.

But personally, I do not think there is any need to discuss any putative 
'defence' of child abuse. There was none. The exact words used by Mark were :
" Or are you repeating the trope about child abuse in the Catholic Church? The 
truth is that practically every US institution caring for children has been 
shown to have a child-molestation problem, sooner or later. Except for the Girl 
Scouts."
I think what they show is a word choice open to being misconstructed. You 
Sartesian have interpreted this word as a lie or a an attempted white-wash. I 
think that is quite false. I do not think there is - or can be from any of the 
prior correspondences - any realistic charge to be made of 'defense' of child 
molestation.

Because the image that I have of 'trope' is more like this - I interpret the 
word 'trope' as used here " something such as an idea, phrase, or image that is 
often used in a particular artist's work, in a particular type of art, in the 
media, etc.: Human-like robots are a classic trope of science fiction. The 
politician's speech was full of racist tropes. Compare cliché "; Cambridge 
Dictionary at: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trope

I think that I recall - that even before the so-called 'revolutionary priests' 
movement of South America, that Lenin pointed out that priests could join the 
Bolshevik party. I am not quite sure why some have to be more 'catholic' than 
Lenin on this matter.
H


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