On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 04:25 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: > > The same can't be said of those like Artesian who stand aloof from > class-based organizations and who do not accept or understand that > electoral intervention can complement rather than contradict > extraparliamentary activity, or of those who do see the connection but > wander off into some sideahow like the Green Party.
Last time the issue of abstentionism was raised was in the thread where said accuser finally acknowledged his support for Syriza and told us, collapsing the class conflict at the core of a struggle for the immediate form of the appearance, that the ticket to building a movement was in, and solely in supporting Syriza (the so-called "Syriza-left" never really existed as an organized force and collapsed early on). When I pointed that during the events in 2015-16 I maintained communication and discussion with a small, but involved extreme left group. that was designated by our accuser, as the essence of sectarianism. I'm proud of the fact that no matter what I do, I'll always disappoint our sage of the "tactical alliance" inside a bourgeois party. The Grand Accuser says electoral intervention can complement rather than contradict extra parliamentary activity" once again posing the issue falsely. I'm not opposed categorically to electoral intervention or parliamentary activity. Supporting the Democrats is neither an intervention nor parliamentary activity. So I pose a question similar to the one posed to Walter Daum: Where and when has entering a bourgeois party complement extra-parliamentary expressions of class struggle? The so-called democratic left has been entering into tactical alliances with established parties for decades-- and how has that worked out for class struggle? Good? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33030): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33030 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/109066560/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
