On Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 10:27 AM, <sartes...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > The questions I posed remain unanswered.
*Your answer to my questions:* As a good and principled revolutionary, you would not have participated in the trade union, civil rights, womens' gay, and other social movements which sought to translate their demands into legislative reforms through the Democratic Party. Or if you had condescended to join these movements, it would have been in order to tell them it was a waste of time and effort to apply mass pressure on Democratic administrations to pass labour and civil rights legislation. They should focus instead on "building an organization to leave that party". This would in your opinion have been a winning strategy as opposed to the one "which hasn't worked out so well.” The loyal Democrats who populated these movements would have been persuaded by the sheet force of your arguments to leave the DP to form a new one called Council Communists of America. *My answer to yours:* I’ve always more admired working people with illusions who fight to change their conditions than left-wing intellectuals with fewer illusions who stand apart from and disdain their struggles. “Men fight and lose the battle, and the thing that they fought for comes about in spite of their defeat, and when it comes turns out not to be what they meant, and other men have to fight for what they meant under another name.” William Morris A Dream of John Ball (1886) https://www.marxists.org/archive/morris/works/1886/johnball/chapters/chapter4.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33055): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33055 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/109066560/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
