On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 05:36 PM, Marv Gandall wrote:

> 
> Good question, and Michael M. would be justified in throwing it back at
> you: What are YOU going to do to get Kamala Harris quaking in her boots
> besides sending incendiary emails to Marxmail?
> 
> 
> 

He might be...if I thought Ms. Harris gave a rat's ass about my "loyalty" to 
her or the other footsie players.  It might be...if  I were innocent enough to 
believe that Ms. Harris had any obligation to respond to my claims for 
"payment," when I had never made those claims a condition of support for her  
or any  other footsie player prior to endorsement, or if I were foolish enough 
to believe the support of the progressives was in fact organized, program 
based, or if I was self-deluding enough to think Ms Harris and her collection 
of footsie players did not already know that, no matter what, come the next 
election, there will be a greater evil, and all those  progressives who 
demanded this and insisted that, will again fall in line, because after all 
there is a "lesser evil."

> 
> But at least if he chooses to do so Micheal M. and others like him will be
> able to collaborate with the organized left in the party to try to exert
> some countervailing pressure....
> 
> 

> 
> Whatever its shortcomings, the DSA and others on the DP left are a more
> important constituency than that represented by the Greens That also won't
> bring "victory to the masses"anytime soon , but it is at least engagement
> with the more politically conscious core of union, party, and movement
> activists who consistently vote Democratic.
> 
> 

So if I understand this correctly,  only those who support the Democrats can 
collaborate with the organized left in the party.  Clearly, this means Marv 
only supports those elements of DSA who insist on loyalty to the Democrats, 
despite the fact that there  is considerable opposition to that within the DSA 
itself.  Here we have the truth of defending the organized left in the 
Democratic Party-- it means defending the  organized right wing of that  left.

What do you say to that more politically conscious sector in unions and DSA who 
have been struggling to break the collaboration? "Not now"?  "Your time will 
come"?  "Conditions aren't right"?   Anybody else remember the treatment of the 
Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party at the 1964 convention, when everybody was 
worried about that greater evil, Goldwater?


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