Hey Simon, Peter and Jaroslaw, I saw this thread and wanted to jump in. Our reputation data access was introduced many years ago as a free tool and usage has grown significantly. Recently we’ve seen very high and extreme usage so we added registration for this, and now we’re introducing paid tiers for high-volume use.
As we have real operational costs, we want to work with our heavy users to keep things sustainable and continue delivering a solid experience for everyone. That said, we’re committed to keeping the service accessible. There’s a free tier available for light usage (10,000 Queries in a rolling 30 days). And we’ve rolled out other options across our product line for smaller consumers. Our delivery tools for mailers with lighter sending starts at $20 month, complaint FBL starts at $18 year, and email list verification has an entry point at $40. We also offer nonprofit programs for qualifying orgs. Feel free to respond to any notification you received directly, or to ping me directly with any feedback or additional questions. Thanks, Tom Bartel Sent from my personal address but with my SVP Data, Validity, Inc. hat on. On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 2:05 AM Peter via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On 4/04/25 20:27, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > > Dnia 4.04.2025 o godz. 16:10:40 Peter via mailop pisze: > >> > >> Yeah, well they already charge an arm and a leg to get on their > >> allowlist, now they want to make money from the servers that use it > >> as well. Sorry I won't be partaking in that list any longer. > > > > I never used their list as I have absolutely no reason for it, but their > > logic seems strange to me. > > I run postscreen after-220 tests and so it pays to get more servers > whitelisted to avoid delays. I was just using the dnswl.org list but I > found some major senders weren't on it, but were on some other lists, so > I included this one and a couple of others. I think I can do without > this list though as I can find others which whitelist the servers I need > to get mail from and it's not worth spending money for my little server > on it. > > > As it costs a lot of money to get on their list of "good" senders, it is > > clearly directed towards big companies who can afford that money. Big > > companies (I mean those who send legitimate email, not spam) usually > already > > have pretty good reputation and deliverability without using additional > > "boosts" like this list, because their messages are quite commonplace, so > > regardless if they are on Validity list or not, spam filters are tuned to > > pass them through anyway. So there's actually little benefit from > including > > that list in receiving server configuration, and little motivation to do > so > > for the admin. > > > > If they now want to charge money for using that list, said motivation > drops > > to near zero, and benefit, in monetary terms, may even become negative... > > While I tend to agree here, Validity plays with the big boys and they're > allowlist is used by Microsoft among others. That alone is probably > good enough to make it worthwhile for senders to pay to get on it and > they likely don't care about driving away small folks like us. > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop >
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