On 4/04/25 20:27, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 4.04.2025 o godz. 16:10:40 Peter via mailop pisze:
Yeah, well they already charge an arm and a leg to get on their
allowlist, now they want to make money from the servers that use it
as well. Sorry I won't be partaking in that list any longer.
I never used their list as I have absolutely no reason for it, but their
logic seems strange to me.
I run postscreen after-220 tests and so it pays to get more servers
whitelisted to avoid delays. I was just using the dnswl.org list but I
found some major senders weren't on it, but were on some other lists, so
I included this one and a couple of others. I think I can do without
this list though as I can find others which whitelist the servers I need
to get mail from and it's not worth spending money for my little server
on it.
As it costs a lot of money to get on their list of "good" senders, it is
clearly directed towards big companies who can afford that money. Big
companies (I mean those who send legitimate email, not spam) usually already
have pretty good reputation and deliverability without using additional
"boosts" like this list, because their messages are quite commonplace, so
regardless if they are on Validity list or not, spam filters are tuned to
pass them through anyway. So there's actually little benefit from including
that list in receiving server configuration, and little motivation to do so
for the admin.
If they now want to charge money for using that list, said motivation drops
to near zero, and benefit, in monetary terms, may even become negative...
While I tend to agree here, Validity plays with the big boys and they're
allowlist is used by Microsoft among others. That alone is probably
good enough to make it worthwhile for senders to pay to get on it and
they likely don't care about driving away small folks like us.
Peter
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