-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 14:01 +0000, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > > > > From their web site: WHITELISTING IS RECOMMENDED FOR IP > > > > > 217.182.79.147. Registration is available for 1 Month (25 CHF), 6 > > > > > Month (50 CHF), 12 Month (70 CHF), 24 Month (90 CHF) . So yes, > > > > > perhaps it's not extortion. We may call it demanding money with > > > > > menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail... > > > > > > > > Lot's of things in life require payment(s), or purchase of addon > > > > equipment, depending on your circumstances in life, your living > > > > arrangements, or your location. If you are in a high-crime area your > > > > mortgage insurance will probably require you to purchase an alarm, or > > > > if your home is prone to house fires, a smoke detector. Then there > > > > are taxes, fees, licenses, etc. Life is self is pay-to-play, whether > > > > you realize it or not. > > > > > > Yeah, and when they'll need more beer they can just update their > > > formula so as to blacklist a whole AS on the first spam, or maybe the > > > whole RIR. > > > > That's a fair point, there's no reason to not question their motives. I > > just personally don't see that it's a profit center for them. > > > > Just do the math. They blocked at least 100K IPs, because 1% of these IPs > sent spam in the last 7 days. If 0.5% of those 100K IPs decide to > subscribe to their whitelist, that's at least 50000 CHF / 24 months. > Which is I guess a rather comfortable income that largely exceeds their > costs.
How do you know that's not the same situation as the PBL? Who says that it was uceprotect's decision alone to list 100K IPs? > Also, they seem to ignore that, while it is feasible for ISPs to eradicate > spam on their network, it is impossible for server providers to do this: That sounds a lot like apathy. Even the banks are required to KYC. > > "If big providers like DTAG and Microsoft can so effectively prevent that > their customers are sending spam, why can your provider not also do so? > The simple answer is: The Abuse Departements of providers NOT listed in > our Level 3 are doing an excellent job, while those listed do not. If your > provider really wants to stop the excessive spam coming from their ranges > they would simply install some preventive measures." > > Honest customers can have their WordPress website hacked. Most don't, case studies have shown that it's apathy that causes most wordpress hacks. - -Jim P. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3RmV4WutJ2KyCS2zPcxbabkKGJ8FAmAJirUACgkQPcxbabkK GJ/jMQ//Rz6ksQNBXDOja83J6D0bGY9YEejL5tvPjOKMEbb8N5kQnmz6acDMZmAl 9lHkKUMAGy0nGwggXxFaE8pyFg6ClGeOSz+6yQsxOvzz2KszprsV/xEENQRAUrrh VuqpTThAGC2Ltg4gbe9VUF0PNfpvw7KiuUpaeHssO2fch8ePJ6GRmwR3LUBH16Bh wYmxhWS2OGP87WcqcYQJzPgK67pvbi7u/LXgf+3Brw3trgXnI7HUVKr3ulMlpKot RkzfaoCmsPGKNi0Upa7PwgRMSZ+/JpO6E5g5FoYtVq6UCZmEXth3dT9pLFUvzhus voUNPUkRsaQtyRi1j5B3GpL+PwHPKVQW2cITnjG45a8T8ShxZMIAMEvKHEDqxk4m q6nApxtLvSA211o/LrpGYYYTcFv1Q836E8Rkt2LEZ8Di6WvRIdQkhceR/glMWdEX 3WgpMXPyJQj93/boiTF+S9trie4CI4n++mWBL1WYMONd9qWkJhHzpPqEBYMrc8aA +UP0Xvfggty/IxPw+wdQVvT+aDi4V0Tw5Qwnt0mFVoMMX1Nc2Ny3cv+muICoAeWL RuyJwVac/c4J6SrD5BCKLbbuUi2AsDCSR71XAomLfNKTbICe1Z3UMRHjPlGc9Cuj FoHnxIVUckRf0s0M+nH95UzB8RbD/fg7eMkRGcsej7o6TzC07+E= =73Hx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
