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On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:08 +0100, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
> On Wed 20/Jan/2021 14:25:10 +0100 Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 14:10 +0100, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote:
> > > On 1/20/21 1:58 PM, Jim Popovitch via mailop wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 13:29 +0100, Hetzner Blacklist via mailop wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > New/current policy: http://www.uceprotect.net/en/index.php?m=3&s=5
> > > > 
> > > > You failed to mention this bit from that link:
> > > > 
> > > > "UCEPROTECT-Level 3 lists all IP's within an ASN except those approved
> > > > and clean IP's that are registered at ips.whitelisted.org"
> > > 
> > > Isn't that exactly what is called as extortion/blackmail?
> > 
> > No, no it's not.  I'll leave it to your legal dept to explain that to
> > you.
> 
>  From their web site:
> 
> WHITELISTING IS RECOMMENDED FOR IP 217.182.79.147.
> 
> Registration is available for 1 Month (25 CHF), 6 Month (50 CHF), 12 Month 
> (70 
> CHF), 24 Month (90 CHF) .
> 
> 
> So yes, perhaps it's not extortion.  We may call it demanding money with 
> menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail...

Lot's of things in life require payment(s), or purchase of addon
equipment, depending on your circumstances in life, your living
arrangements, or your location.  If you are in a high-crime area your
mortgage insurance will probably require you to purchase an alarm, or if
your home is prone to house fires, a smoke detector.  Then there are
taxes, fees, licenses, etc.  Life is self is pay-to-play, whether you
realize it or not. 

- -Jim P.


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