Well, Robert it probably does more to hurt all blind users of Apple devices than it ever will to help make things better. But, as I am sure you known blind people have a long history of being hateful, spiteful, not appreciating what is done for them, and constant complainers.
Sent from my accessible iPhone > On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:53 AM, ROBERT CARTER <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I think the idea that accessibility is less important to Apple since the > death of Steve Jobs is nothing more than pure speculation and if anyone can > prove otherwise, I would love to see the evidence. I see no value in such > comments. > > Robert Carter > > >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Scott B. <sb356...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Absolutely right. They can talking to engineering. But engeeniering has >> the final say. I agree since the great Steve Jobs has passed we're probably >> not seeing as much interaction from Accessibility as people saw before. To >> sum it up very briefly Accessibility is where you take the accessibility >> suggestions or problems. They either act upon them y supporting you the >> person who needs help or passing it on to the engineering team by >> escalation. Please also keep in mind these are tier 2 support personnel so >> they can't know everything either so be easy on these people. >> >> >>> On 12/17/2013 03:37, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as >>> if to suggest that we are being ignored. It seems to be the belief of some >>> that the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and problems >>> with Voice Over. I do not believe that this is the case. It is my belief >>> that the Apple accessibility team has, in fact, a very limited role at >>> Apple. Frankly, with the passing of the late great Steve Jobs, that role >>> has perhaps demenished greatly. I believe that the Apple accessibility team >>> never has had actual decision making capacity with respect to actual >>> implementation of fixes for Voice Over. They didn’t even have this power >>> under Steve Jobs. Unless I am very much mistaken, all the accessibility >>> team has any power to do is to forward our findings over to the development >>> teams but nothing more. They cannot even tell us whether or not our >>> reports will be acted upon. Now, this last is most likely a part of >>> Apple’s non disclosure policy: however, I suspect that even if this was >>> not so, Apple’s accessibility team would not be informed in any case. In >>> short, it seems that the only function that this accessibility team has and >>> will ever have at Apple is not much more than a kind of clearing house of >>> feedback from us blind users. I cannot help wonder how many Apple app >>> developmental teams look at submissions from the accessibility team and say >>> to themselves, “Oh, no, not again.”. I suspect that this explains why it >>> is that our reports seem to go unheeded. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> -- >> Scott Berry >> Email: sb356...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
