Hey Tim,

Very impressive that you discovered that 1 and 3 setting in visual. I adjusted 
my setting to 1 as it was set to 3, and for the first time VO common would mark 
and drag the mailbox, as I didn't get the hidden message. However, it wouldn't 
drop it. It said unable to drop mailbox. I tried dropping it right on the 
favorites mailbox and also in the favorites bar by first interacting with it, 
but got the same message. Am I dropping the mailbox in the wrong place? I tried 
it both in classic and non classic. Thanks.
On May 27, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian,
> 
> Did you check your VO settings that I mentioned in my previous post?  I, too, 
> was unable to do anything on my MacBook Pro until today when I adjusted those 
> settings.  A couple other things to note that weren't mentioned in my post:
> 
> • I was performing this using the regular view, not Classic.
> • You must Interact with the given Mailbox from within the Mailboxes Table in 
> order to Mark it otherwise the "Not Draggable" message will be heard.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-05-27, at 4:43 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I tried moving a mailbox in classic mail and in the regular version, and of 
>> course got the same error message in both that the mailbox is not draggable. 
>> I also wasn't able to do it the old way with a VO shift space bar, which is 
>> what worked a few weeks ago when I first wanted to move the mailbox. I ended 
>> up having someone who could see move it, and have not tried since, if 
>> someone figures something out, let me know as I would love to be able to do 
>> it on my own if I have to in the future. Thanks
>> On May 27, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, I agree with you John.  Both my iMac running 10.8.3 and MacPro 
>>> running the same work properly for the most part.  Not as functional as 
>>> Nicholas mentioned whereby he could drop it in a specific place in the 
>>> Favourites bar but it at least works way better than my MBP.  This is an 
>>> interesting challenge so I'm not giving up on figuring out the differences 
>>> yet.
>>> 
>>> Have a good one.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-05-27, at 11:08 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>   There has to be some setting that is not obvious or some configuration 
>>>> option.  It just seems strange that some of us are having little to no 
>>>> problems while others are not able to do it at all.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
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>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 2:40 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> My 2 cents:
>>>>> 
>>>>> • I have all the same relevant settings as John.
>>>>> • I can successfully drag and drop mailboxes to the favourites bar on 
>>>>> both my iMac and MacBook Air. Just tested now on my MacBook Air and it 
>>>>> worked first time.
>>>>> • I interact with the mailbox list before dragging, but not with the 
>>>>> mailbox itself.
>>>>> • I can drag and drop collapsed mailboxes such as sent, archived 
>>>>> etcetera. However, I think I may have had to interact with them first.
>>>>> • I interact with the favourites bar before dropping and use 
>>>>> VO-SHIFT-COMMA or VO-SHIFT-PERIOD to drop it before or after another 
>>>>> mailbox in my favourites bar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nic
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