Hi, Kerri, Well, there's some of that here, too. States like California, Minnesota, Washington, tend to do a lot more, and also be more forward thinking. In other states, it's much more difficult. Take care, Donna On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi, Donna: > > In other provinces, it is similar to the States but here in BC, it sure is > limited. > On 2013-04-28, at 2:33 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Kerri, >> >> Wow that surprises me. I would have thought that things in Canada would be >> pretty similar to things here. I've always bought my own tech, too, but I >> am glad that these options exist for those who can't. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> Please feel fortunate, we have almost no agencies here in /canada and the >> only way you can obtain anything is by attending school/post secondary >> institutions at which yo have to do extremely well, or be employed. If you >> want a mac, you buy it yourself around here, which is what I did. >> On 2013-04-28, at 1:42 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sandi, >>> >>> I made that argument, and many others. Rehab agencies here in the U.S. are >>> often very reticent to purchase Macs. This comes from many factors that I >>> won't go into here, but it's really very hard to get them to look at >>> anything that isn't a Freedom Scientific--and thus Windows--product. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> hi. I will admit i have not followed your case closely Donna, but in >>>> case you are ever in the situation again, why not simply stating the >>>> obvious? if the mac goes down the blind person can install the os her, >>>> or him self, as far as i know of we cant do that with windows. >>>> Sometimes i think that having people believing in blind persons and >>>> the mac is frustrating, but there are light at the end. At least if >>>> you live in denmark, part of that is the lower price, but it is >>>> simply also that the system is more stable and if it goes down you can >>>> install it again your self. >>>> >>>> >>>> best >>>> >>>> >>>> sandi >>>> >>>> written from her Mac mini II who have not failed her yet! :) >>>> >>>> On 4/28/13, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>> >>>>> Well, the short answer is that we went over his head. >>>>> >>>>> We filed a complaint with the state, which resulted in a conference call >>>>> with the boss of the people who made the decision. the guy was kind of >>>>> frustrating. Initially he accused me of letting my personal biases >>>>> interfere with making a decision that was in the student's best interest, >>>>> he >>>>> still insisted that Windows is the better choice b/c that is what 90% of >>>>> employers want, and when I said that if she ever really had to, she could >>>>> install Windows on her Mac, he said that no blind person should ever try >>>>> to >>>>> run an installation of Windows on a Mac, because it's too difficult. I >>>>> just >>>>> ignored the latter, but I thought it said a lot about how little he knows >>>>> about blind Mac users. He was also very hung up on the fact that MS >>>>> Office >>>>> isn't accessible on the Mac, and I had to spend some time talking about >>>>> why >>>>> that wasn't a problem. >>>>> >>>>> I think mostly the conference call was a show for the benefit of his >>>>> underlings, so that it didn't look like he just overruled them. So we >>>>> went >>>>> through all the points, that we do have Macs on campus, that I can provide >>>>> training and support, that a Mac is an appropriate choice for her >>>>> career,how >>>>> her exposure to a Mac was pretty much even with her exposure to Windows >>>>> and >>>>> JAWS, etc. Toward the end of the call he pontificated about how using an >>>>> iPad or iPhone isn't the same as using an actual Mac--which of course she >>>>> already understood--and then said that given that having a Mac would not >>>>> present employment issues, and given that her experiences with both >>>>> systems >>>>> are basically equivalent, they could go ahead and by the Mac. >>>>> >>>>> So that's how it happened. I'm thrilled for the student, and hoping that >>>>> the next time someone in the state requests a Mac, just maybe, we have >>>>> made >>>>> a small in-road. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:36 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> WOOT! >>>>>> I bet that was definitely frustrating to start with. So, inquiring minds >>>>>> want to know… what convinced the VR rep to acquiesce to your demands? >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the VR >>>>>>> powers that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes >>>>>>> frustrating conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my student. >>>>>>> She and I were both thrilled. thanks again to all who gave input. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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