hmmm. that much of a fight does indicate that they are going to be resistant to such requests in the future. The other problem is that the person making the spurious arguments about the mac doesn't want to be educated. they are still of the opinion that they know best what the blind client needs, not what they actually need.
I get this a lot from my VR agency as well. They have already labeled me as uncooperative, difficult to deal with and some other things. It takes my having to threaten getting a lawyer before they listen. Oh well, if they don't want ulcers over it, they just have to grant my requests. -eric On Apr 28, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Eric, > > Well, the short answer is that we went over his head. > > We filed a complaint with the state, which resulted in a conference call with > the boss of the people who made the decision. the guy was kind of > frustrating. Initially he accused me of letting my personal biases interfere > with making a decision that was in the student's best interest, he still > insisted that Windows is the better choice b/c that is what 90% of employers > want, and when I said that if she ever really had to, she could install > Windows on her Mac, he said that no blind person should ever try to run an > installation of Windows on a Mac, because it's too difficult. I just ignored > the latter, but I thought it said a lot about how little he knows about blind > Mac users. He was also very hung up on the fact that MS Office isn't > accessible on the Mac, and I had to spend some time talking about why that > wasn't a problem. > > I think mostly the conference call was a show for the benefit of his > underlings, so that it didn't look like he just overruled them. So we went > through all the points, that we do have Macs on campus, that I can provide > training and support, that a Mac is an appropriate choice for her career,how > her exposure to a Mac was pretty much even with her exposure to Windows and > JAWS, etc. Toward the end of the call he pontificated about how using an > iPad or iPhone isn't the same as using an actual Mac--which of course she > already understood--and then said that given that having a Mac would not > present employment issues, and given that her experiences with both systems > are basically equivalent, they could go ahead and by the Mac. > > So that's how it happened. I'm thrilled for the student, and hoping that the > next time someone in the state requests a Mac, just maybe, we have made a > small in-road. > Cheers, > Donna > On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:36 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> WOOT! >> I bet that was definitely frustrating to start with. So, inquiring minds >> want to know… what convinced the VR rep to acquiesce to your demands? >> >> -eric >> >> On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the VR >>> powers that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes frustrating >>> conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my student. She and I were >>> both thrilled. thanks again to all who gave input. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
