hi Eric. You only been told you are difficult? oh my god, i know that the list of things i been told i am from the handicap organization in denmark is longer than that. And yes i have found out too that saying that you will call your lawyer does actually help quite a bit. For me it dont help matters that i have gone from blind too nearly fully sighted. Sometimes it is like that the persons who are actually there too help you, are not educated enough about the matter, i ended up having too buy all my tech, plus books for the nursing education, how i did that well lets leave that one alone. I know that my ideal setup will be a mac mini with an vmware windows vista or 7 32 bit thing for the scanner. So far that have costed me about $18000 and if i knew how hard it would be i had most likely not done it too start with. But it will be worth it in the end. Donna congrats on you and your clients thrillingness! that you got your will in the end is a good thing should there be a repetition later. Then they got your case too fall back on.
best sandi On 4/29/13, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi, Donna: > > In other provinces, it is similar to the States but here in BC, it sure is > limited. > On 2013-04-28, at 2:33 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Kerri, >> >> Wow that surprises me. I would have thought that things in Canada would >> be pretty similar to things here. I've always bought my own tech, too, >> but I am glad that these options exist for those who can't. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 28, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> Please feel fortunate, we have almost no agencies here in /canada and the >> only way you can obtain anything is by attending school/post secondary >> institutions at which yo have to do extremely well, or be employed. If you >> want a mac, you buy it yourself around here, which is what I did. >> On 2013-04-28, at 1:42 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sandi, >>> >>> I made that argument, and many others. Rehab agencies here in the U.S. >>> are often very reticent to purchase Macs. This comes from many factors >>> that I won't go into here, but it's really very hard to get them to look >>> at anything that isn't a Freedom Scientific--and thus Windows--product. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hi. I will admit i have not followed your case closely Donna, but in >>>> case you are ever in the situation again, why not simply stating the >>>> obvious? if the mac goes down the blind person can install the os her, >>>> or him self, as far as i know of we cant do that with windows. >>>> Sometimes i think that having people believing in blind persons and >>>> the mac is frustrating, but there are light at the end. At least if >>>> you live in denmark, part of that is the lower price, but it is >>>> simply also that the system is more stable and if it goes down you can >>>> install it again your self. >>>> >>>> >>>> best >>>> >>>> >>>> sandi >>>> >>>> written from her Mac mini II who have not failed her yet! :) >>>> >>>> On 4/28/13, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>> >>>>> Well, the short answer is that we went over his head. >>>>> >>>>> We filed a complaint with the state, which resulted in a conference >>>>> call >>>>> with the boss of the people who made the decision. the guy was kind >>>>> of >>>>> frustrating. Initially he accused me of letting my personal biases >>>>> interfere with making a decision that was in the student's best >>>>> interest, he >>>>> still insisted that Windows is the better choice b/c that is what 90% >>>>> of >>>>> employers want, and when I said that if she ever really had to, she >>>>> could >>>>> install Windows on her Mac, he said that no blind person should ever >>>>> try to >>>>> run an installation of Windows on a Mac, because it's too difficult. I >>>>> just >>>>> ignored the latter, but I thought it said a lot about how little he >>>>> knows >>>>> about blind Mac users. He was also very hung up on the fact that MS >>>>> Office >>>>> isn't accessible on the Mac, and I had to spend some time talking about >>>>> why >>>>> that wasn't a problem. >>>>> >>>>> I think mostly the conference call was a show for the benefit of his >>>>> underlings, so that it didn't look like he just overruled them. So we >>>>> went >>>>> through all the points, that we do have Macs on campus, that I can >>>>> provide >>>>> training and support, that a Mac is an appropriate choice for her >>>>> career,how >>>>> her exposure to a Mac was pretty much even with her exposure to Windows >>>>> and >>>>> JAWS, etc. Toward the end of the call he pontificated about how using >>>>> an >>>>> iPad or iPhone isn't the same as using an actual Mac--which of course >>>>> she >>>>> already understood--and then said that given that having a Mac would >>>>> not >>>>> present employment issues, and given that her experiences with both >>>>> systems >>>>> are basically equivalent, they could go ahead and by the Mac. >>>>> >>>>> So that's how it happened. I'm thrilled for the student, and hoping >>>>> that >>>>> the next time someone in the state requests a Mac, just maybe, we have >>>>> made >>>>> a small in-road. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:36 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> WOOT! >>>>>> I bet that was definitely frustrating to start with. So, inquiring >>>>>> minds >>>>>> want to know… what convinced the VR rep to acquiesce to your demands? >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the >>>>>>> VR >>>>>>> powers that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes >>>>>>> frustrating conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my >>>>>>> student. >>>>>>> She and I were both thrilled. thanks again to all who gave input. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an >>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an >>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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