Hi Eric, Yeah, I'm sure this fight will play out yet again. But, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. :) Best, donna On Apr 28, 2013, at 5:54 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmmm. that much of a fight does indicate that they are going to be resistant > to such requests in the future. The other problem is that the person making > the spurious arguments about the mac doesn't want to be educated. they are > still of the opinion that they know best what the blind client needs, not > what they actually need. > > I get this a lot from my VR agency as well. They have already labeled me as > uncooperative, difficult to deal with and some other things. It takes my > having to threaten getting a lawyer before they listen. Oh well, if they > don't want ulcers over it, they just have to grant my requests. > > -eric > > On Apr 28, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Eric, >> >> Well, the short answer is that we went over his head. >> >> We filed a complaint with the state, which resulted in a conference call >> with the boss of the people who made the decision. the guy was kind of >> frustrating. Initially he accused me of letting my personal biases >> interfere with making a decision that was in the student's best interest, he >> still insisted that Windows is the better choice b/c that is what 90% of >> employers want, and when I said that if she ever really had to, she could >> install Windows on her Mac, he said that no blind person should ever try to >> run an installation of Windows on a Mac, because it's too difficult. I just >> ignored the latter, but I thought it said a lot about how little he knows >> about blind Mac users. He was also very hung up on the fact that MS Office >> isn't accessible on the Mac, and I had to spend some time talking about why >> that wasn't a problem. >> >> I think mostly the conference call was a show for the benefit of his >> underlings, so that it didn't look like he just overruled them. So we went >> through all the points, that we do have Macs on campus, that I can provide >> training and support, that a Mac is an appropriate choice for her career,how >> her exposure to a Mac was pretty much even with her exposure to Windows and >> JAWS, etc. Toward the end of the call he pontificated about how using an >> iPad or iPhone isn't the same as using an actual Mac--which of course she >> already understood--and then said that given that having a Mac would not >> present employment issues, and given that her experiences with both systems >> are basically equivalent, they could go ahead and by the Mac. >> >> So that's how it happened. I'm thrilled for the student, and hoping that >> the next time someone in the state requests a Mac, just maybe, we have made >> a small in-road. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:36 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> WOOT! >>> I bet that was definitely frustrating to start with. So, inquiring minds >>> want to know… what convinced the VR rep to acquiesce to your demands? >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the VR >>>> powers that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes frustrating >>>> conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my student. She and I >>>> were both thrilled. thanks again to all who gave input. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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