Yes, it comes down to the person you are speaking to.  I have never had any 
issues with refunds.  However, a friend of mine recently dealt with the 
proverbial "bad apple" customer service person when calling up iTunes support 
for some charged items.  I suggested that she call back later to deal with a 
different person.  She did, and she had no problems with the second person.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote:

> I'm sorry you had that experience but I've personally never had such an 
> issue. Both when my daughter managed to somehow rack up 170 via  in  app 
> purchases and when I've payed for inaccessible apps, on explaining my 
> situation was given an instant refund no questions asked and no attitude what 
> so ever. It must be like in many other situations all about who your talking 
> to and what kind of day their having. 
> 
> I'm not at all suggesting that a clear and reasonable refund policy wouldn't 
> be a great idea but rather that I've always found apple to do right by me and 
> my family and friends. 
> 
> Danny. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 22/04/2013, at 9:30 AM, "Chris Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wasn't going to chime in, but when you mentioned about the refund 
>> polacy... allow me to tell you all what Itunes Store Support said once to 
>> me.  It was enough to where it almost caused me to boycott and never ever 
>> use Apple products again.
>> 
>> I bought an app which the dev kept swearing left and right would work with 
>> Voiceover, though didn't offer a trial.  I tried making special arrangements 
>> with him for a serial number which he could activate for me for 8 to 12 
>> hours, just long enough for me to try it, and see if it worked, with the 
>> promise that I'd buy it if it worked.  Even still, he refused.  This app was 
>> around $150.  So, not cheap, to say the very least.  I finally bit the 
>> bullet and bought the app on the app store.  Not only was it not accessible 
>> in the least, thus proving the dev's assumption incorrect, but when I wrote 
>> the dev, he never replied back to me, and never cared that I had bought the 
>> product but was having an issue.  suffice it to say, Finally, I took it up 
>> with Apple.  They gave me the whole shenanigan of:  well, it's not our 
>> problem that you bought an inaccessible app, you should have done your 
>> research more thoroughly, blah blah, blah.  I explained to them I did 
>> everything! within my power to test the accessibility before buying, but the 
>> dev was totally uncooperative.  They still maintained that it's not their 
>> problem, and to get over it young.  When I explained it was $150, all they 
>> seemed to be capable of saying was, ouch!  that's a lot, followed by their 
>> canded appologies.  I finally requested a refund.  As this point, they told 
>> me flat out, even if it was music in the ITunes music store that had been 
>> corrupted, the bottom line was, accessibility not withstanding, quote 
>> unquote:  we don't refund blind people.  That was literally their exact 
>> words, I swear, to, god!  We? do not? refund, blind people!  I almost puked 
>> when hearing this!  I couldn't believe my ears!
>> 
>> Needless to say, I contacted a lawyer her works for the NFB, and we'll just 
>> say he didn't even have to take the case pro-bono.  He called them on my 
>> behalf, and well... we'll just say by the end of the day, I had not only a 
>> refund, but I got twice! the amount I initially paid refunded back to me.
>> 
>> Needless to say, people don't wanna F with me, on the level of bad customer 
>> service ediquet, cause believe me:  I will! get things done, case closed.
>> 
>> Anyway, my point is, I totally! agree with you that a polacy should be made, 
>> not necessarily to refund people who get inaccessible apps, don't get me 
>> wrong, but at the very! least, one that says in both the IOS app store, as 
>> well as the mac app store, there needs to be a requirement to submit some 
>> form of a trial version of your product.  Maybe I'm over-reacting, but come 
>> on!  $150 later and now you're gonna tell me you don't refund quote: 
>> bl'l'lind people?  I'm sorry, but, that's  a crocka, you know what...
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve.holme...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: App Accessibility: Please Read!
>> 
>> 
>> I especially like the idea of getting refunds for inaccessible apps. How 
>> many times has someone gone out and bought an app only to find it impossible 
>> to use with VO? That's why I like going to AppleVis to see if there is any 
>> mention of a proposed app before buying. There won't always be something 
>> there but worth a look. AppleVis is an excellent resource for a11y 
>> information for the time being.
>> 
>> I tend to agree with the previous poster expressing concerns about an 
>> accessibility rating in a public forum where there are so many people who 
>> have no a11y concerns and this could make an app statistically look less 
>> accessible than it really might be.
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "J.P." <jshandr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That is an easier way Karen, and valuable as well. I'm not blind to fact 
>>> you have different levels of users. There just needs to be improvement. 
>>> Especially when it comes to paid apps.
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