Hi Anita, As someone else mentioned, you can set up custom commands using the keyboard commander. Best, Donna On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:59 PM, anita <silky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi List, > I had a MacBook for a very short time, and never found out if VO commands > can be comustized, or not? The learning curve seems very steep to me, and > I've tried searching for podcasts and documentation. > Anita > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Goodin > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM > Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows > > Hi Shannon, > > I've been using a Mac for four years, and I was surprised to see that > comment. Frankly, I think that you can tell that Voiceover is integrated > into the operating system, it just works much more smoothly than do the > third-party screen-readers.. It doesn't hang like JAWS does, I'm not stuck > in blank screens where I don't know what's going on, etc. Personally, I > don't see Voiceover as being limited in any way. > > Just my $.02, > Donna > On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks all for your responses. I guess the last question that we have yet >> to really get an answer on is when someone during one of their responses >> mentioned that the accessibility of voiceover isn’t as great as windows, or >> did they say it’s rather limited. Is this truly the case, and if so what is >> the details on this as this answer is going to weigh heavily on what we >> decide to do for purchasing the next computer. >> Also, I’m assuming no one has any information on when the newest macbook >> pros will be coming out since we’ve been looking at the newest macbook pro >> which has been out now for almost a year so would seem that they’re due for >> an updated version here in the near future. >> >> Take care, >> Shannon Gerdts >> >> From: Maria & Joe Chapman >> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows >> >> HI. I didn't bother with the trial version I just bought it. >> >> Don't know if that makes a difference or not. >> >> >> Maria Chapman >> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >> >> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - >> Mahatma Gandhi >> >> On 07/04/2013, at 5:56 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I never had any luck running VMWare fusion for windows. But, in all >>> fairness, I was running a trial version, and I had imported my bootcamp >>> partition as the guest OS. >>> >>> I should just take the plunge and buy VMWare. I suppose there's enough >>> knowledgeable people on the list who could help me through the rough spots. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Maria & Joe Chapman >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows >>> >>> HI. I've owned my mac for over a year now. I do run a vm from time to >>> time but am finding less and less need to go in to windows. It did take me >>> a while to learn, but the thing I love about the mac is that it just seems >>> to work. No laggie pauses when you hit a key and wait for 5 seconds for a >>> screen reader to tell you what's happening etc. I feel like I have the >>> best of both worlds, I can use windows if I need to, and I can have the >>> stability of the mac. >>> >>> I hope this makes sense. >>> >>> >>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. >>> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>> twitter: bubbygirl >>> skype: bubbygirl1972 >>> >>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 04/04/2013, at 10:32 PM, Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I bought my Mac about two months ago, at the same time, I got rid of my >>>> Windows computer totally. Not very long thereafter, my fiancé got her mac. >>>> Okay, she still wants to chuck it threw a wall from time to time, but >>>> that phase is also passing now. >>>> >>>> The mac to me, is more intuitive, it seems to me as though Apple wants to >>>> make the interface more like that of the iPad, in so doing, making the OS >>>> easier to learn. >>>> >>>> Okay, the fact that Apple tries to protect the users from themselves is >>>> annoying from time to time, though that can be worked around as well. >>>> >>>> As someone said earlier, when an app conks out on you, the whole system >>>> doesn't go with it, and that is worth the cost difference to me. How many >>>> times have I had my windows computer freeze on me because of one app, I >>>> honestly cannot say. This however, does never happen on the Mac, not to my >>>> knowledge anyway. >>>> >>>> Another point to the Mac, is the fact that if and or when your operating >>>> system breaks, you can do a complete reinstall on your own, something >>>> which is impossible using windows. >>>> >>>> Something else that benefits me greatly, is the built in dictation feature >>>> of Mountain lion. Due to only having one hand, my typing speed has been >>>> decreased by at least half. Now, that is no longer a factor, and another >>>> reason why the mac is cost effective for me. It increased my productivity >>>> two levels higher than before I lost the use of my hand, obviously because >>>> I can talk faster than I could ever type. >>>> >>>> There you have my contribution to the Mac versus Windows debate, no matter >>>> how insignificant it maybe. >>>> >>>> Warm regards, >>>> >>>> Brandt Steenkamp >>>> >>>> Sent from my macbook pro >>>> >>>> Contact me: >>>> >>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 >>>> >>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> My ring to Skype: >>>> California, United States >>>> +(1)760-5140161 >>>> Extension 512 >>>> Cape Town, South Africa >>>> +(27)213-002317 >>>> Extension 161 >>>> Johannesburg, South Africa >>>> +(27)105-002316 >>>> Extension 170 >>>> >>>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >>>> >>>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >>>> >>>> On 04 Apr 2013, at 1:17 AM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm the same way, I have a windows 7 computer for those rare times I use >>>>> it which I do as it's connected to the tv and that is how we watch tv. >>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 2:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there >>>>>> Personally, I like TextEdit and pages better than I like in this word. >>>>>> This is because MS Word offers me more options that I want to deal with. >>>>>> When I made the switch, I had choices because I am self-employed, and I >>>>>> could call my customer and tell her that I was Changing and therefore, I >>>>>> was no longer going to use tables. I do make Excel files by converting >>>>>> them from Numbers. I have of voided putting windows on my computer like >>>>>> the plague. It's just prejudice. Also, my husband has a Windows computer >>>>>> which has just 13 on it. So, if I have a burning need to use Windows, I >>>>>> can use his computer, something I do about once a year. The big thing I >>>>>> use it for is editing PDF files such as forms. That is something we need >>>>>> added for the Macintosh. I hope this information helps. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will do my best to chime in on this subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used windows since 1995 in college and 1998 at home. I found the >>>>>>> switch fro Windows to Mac rather arduous because my computer had a >>>>>>> couple not serious issues and I didn't have training (I hadn't found >>>>>>> this list yet) Once the learning curve was over, I find Mac easier and >>>>>>> more intuitive but there are some things I like better about windows to >>>>>>> this day. I like the feedback that voice over provides, for example, >>>>>>> when copying and pasting, but I like burning css on windows better. For >>>>>>> utilizing talking communities chat client, I prefer windows but for >>>>>>> Skype I prefer Mac. >>>>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 12:36 PM, "Shannon Gerdts" <bambam...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello list, >>>>>>>> I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct >>>>>>>> question without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities. >>>>>>>> What I mean by this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys >>>>>>>> on the list about an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with >>>>>>>> the Mac. I also would like to know what you guys have experienced as >>>>>>>> being pros to the switch from a windows machine to that of a Mac >>>>>>>> system as well as cons if there is any. Have any of you used boot >>>>>>>> camp or another way of running windows successfully on a Mac? >>>>>>>> The reason I want to get this information is because my wife just >>>>>>>> recently had her Toshiba laptop give out on her after just three to >>>>>>>> four years and is rather disappointed with her experiences in windows >>>>>>>> laptops so she is tossing around the idea of a Mac. However, before >>>>>>>> making the decision to just jump into the decision she >>>>>>>> would like to get as much information as possible and weigh the >>>>>>>> advantages and disadvantages first so that she makes the best decision >>>>>>>> for her in the long run without being stuck shelling out money on a >>>>>>>> system she won't like. I ask about running Windows in boot camp or >>>>>>>> through another avenue because she enjoys mudding and uses VIP mud >>>>>>>> which is made only for windows so will likely need to use this in the >>>>>>>> short term at the very least until she can find a client that works as >>>>>>>> well with voiceover on the Mac. >>>>>>>> I thank all responses you guys can give us and thank you all in >>>>>>>> welcoming me to the list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>>> Shannon Gerdts >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 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