Hi Anita,

As someone else mentioned, you can set up custom commands using the keyboard 
commander.
Best,
Donna
On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:59 PM, anita <silky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi List,
>     I had a MacBook for a very short time, and never found out if VO commands 
> can be comustized, or not?  The learning curve seems very steep to me, and 
> I've tried searching for podcasts and documentation.
>     Anita
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donna Goodin
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
> 
> Hi Shannon,
> 
> I've been using a Mac for four years, and I was surprised to see that 
> comment.  Frankly, I think that you can tell that Voiceover is integrated 
> into the operating system, it just works much more smoothly than do the 
> third-party screen-readers..  It doesn't hang like JAWS does, I'm not stuck 
> in blank screens where I don't know what's going on, etc.  Personally, I 
> don't see Voiceover as being limited in any way.
> 
> Just my $.02,
> Donna
> On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks all for your responses.  I guess the last question that we have yet 
>> to really get an answer on is when someone during one of their responses 
>> mentioned that the accessibility of voiceover isn’t as great as windows, or 
>> did they say it’s rather limited.  Is this truly the case, and if so what is 
>> the details on this as this answer is going to weigh heavily on what we 
>> decide to do for purchasing the next computer.
>>     Also, I’m assuming no one has any information on when the newest macbook 
>> pros will be coming out since we’ve been looking at the newest macbook pro 
>> which has been out now for almost a year so would seem that they’re due for 
>> an updated version here in the near future.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Shannon Gerdts
>>  
>> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
>> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>>  
>> HI.  I didn't bother with the trial version I just bought it.
>>  
>> Don't know if that makes a difference or not.
>>  
>>  
>> Maria Chapman
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>  
>> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
>> Mahatma Gandhi
>>  
>> On 07/04/2013, at 5:56 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I never had any luck running VMWare fusion for windows. But, in all 
>>> fairness, I was running a trial version, and I had imported my bootcamp 
>>> partition as the guest OS.
>>>  
>>> I should just take the plunge and buy VMWare. I suppose there's enough 
>>> knowledgeable people on the list who could help me through the rough spots.
>>>  
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows
>>>  
>>> HI.  I've owned my mac for over a year now.  I do run a vm from time to 
>>> time but am finding less and less need to go in to windows.  It did take me 
>>> a while to learn, but the thing I love about the mac is that it just seems 
>>> to work.  No laggie pauses when you hit a key and wait for 5 seconds for a 
>>> screen reader to tell you what's happening etc.  I feel like I have the 
>>> best of both worlds, I can use windows if I need to, and I can have the 
>>> stability of the mac.  
>>>  
>>> I hope this makes sense.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>>  
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On 04/04/2013, at 10:32 PM, Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I bought my Mac about two months ago, at the same time, I got rid of my 
>>>> Windows computer totally. Not very long thereafter, my fiancé got her mac. 
>>>> Okay, she still wants to chuck  it threw a wall from time to time, but 
>>>> that phase is also passing now.
>>>> 
>>>> The mac to me, is more intuitive, it seems to me as though Apple wants to 
>>>> make the interface more like that of the iPad, in so doing, making the OS 
>>>> easier to learn.
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, the fact that Apple tries to protect the users from themselves is 
>>>> annoying from time to time, though  that can be worked around as well.
>>>> 
>>>> As someone said earlier, when an app conks out on you, the whole system 
>>>> doesn't go with it, and that is worth the cost difference to me. How many 
>>>> times have I had my windows computer freeze on me because of one app, I 
>>>> honestly cannot say. This however, does never happen on the Mac, not to my 
>>>> knowledge anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> Another point to the Mac, is the fact that if and or when your operating 
>>>> system breaks, you can do a complete reinstall on your own, something 
>>>> which is impossible using windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Something else that benefits me greatly, is the built in dictation feature 
>>>> of Mountain lion. Due to only having one hand, my typing speed has been 
>>>> decreased by at least half. Now, that is no longer a factor, and another 
>>>> reason why the mac is cost effective for me. It increased my productivity 
>>>> two levels higher than before I lost the use of my hand, obviously because 
>>>> I can            talk faster than I could ever type.
>>>> 
>>>> There you have my contribution to the Mac versus Windows debate, no matter 
>>>> how insignificant it maybe.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>> 
>>>> Contact me:
>>>> 
>>>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013
>>>> 
>>>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> My ring to Skype:
>>>> California, United States
>>>> +(1)760-5140161      
>>>> Extension 512
>>>> Cape Town, South Africa
>>>>   +(27)213-002317      
>>>> Extension 161
>>>> Johannesburg, South Africa
>>>> +(27)105-002316
>>>> Extension 170
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007
>>>> 
>>>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com
>>>> 
>>>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp
>>>> 
>>>> On 04 Apr 2013, at 1:17 AM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm the same way, I have a windows 7 computer for those rare times I use 
>>>>> it which I do as it's connected to the tv and that is how we watch tv.
>>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 2:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>> Personally, I like TextEdit and pages better than I like in this word. 
>>>>>> This is because MS Word offers me more options that I want to deal with. 
>>>>>> When I made the switch, I had choices because I am self-employed, and I 
>>>>>> could call my customer and tell her that I was Changing and therefore, I 
>>>>>> was no longer going to use tables. I do make Excel files by converting 
>>>>>> them from Numbers. I have of voided putting windows on my computer like 
>>>>>> the plague. It's just prejudice. Also, my husband has a Windows computer 
>>>>>> which has just 13 on it. So, if I have a burning need to use Windows, I 
>>>>>> can use his computer, something I do about once a year. The big thing I 
>>>>>> use it for is editing PDF files such as forms. That is something we need 
>>>>>> added for the Macintosh. I hope this information helps.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will do my best to chime in on this subject.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used windows since 1995 in college and 1998 at home. I found the 
>>>>>>> switch fro Windows to Mac rather arduous because my computer had a 
>>>>>>> couple not serious issues and I didn't have training (I hadn't found 
>>>>>>> this list yet) Once the learning curve was over, I find Mac easier and 
>>>>>>> more intuitive but there are some things I like better about windows to 
>>>>>>> this day. I like the feedback that voice over provides, for example, 
>>>>>>> when copying and pasting, but I like burning css on windows better. For 
>>>>>>> utilizing talking communities chat client, I prefer windows but for 
>>>>>>> Skype I prefer Mac.
>>>>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 12:36 PM, "Shannon Gerdts" <bambam...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>> I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct 
>>>>>>>> question without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities.  
>>>>>>>> What I mean by this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys 
>>>>>>>> on the list about an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with 
>>>>>>>> the Mac.  I also would like to know what you guys have experienced as 
>>>>>>>> being pros to the switch from a windows machine to that of a  Mac 
>>>>>>>> system as well as cons if there is any.  Have any of you used boot 
>>>>>>>> camp or another way of running windows successfully on a Mac?
>>>>>>>> The reason I want to get this information is because my wife just 
>>>>>>>> recently had her Toshiba laptop  give out on her after just three to 
>>>>>>>> four years and is rather disappointed with her experiences in windows 
>>>>>>>> laptops so she is tossing around the idea of a Mac.  However, before 
>>>>>>>> making the decision to just jump into the              decision she 
>>>>>>>> would like to get as much information as possible and weigh the 
>>>>>>>> advantages and disadvantages first so that she makes the best decision 
>>>>>>>> for her in the long run without being stuck shelling out money on a 
>>>>>>>> system she won't like.  I ask about running Windows in boot camp or 
>>>>>>>> through another avenue because she enjoys mudding and uses VIP mud 
>>>>>>>> which is made only for windows so will likely need to use this in the 
>>>>>>>> short term at the very least until she can find a client that works as 
>>>>>>>> well with voiceover on the Mac.
>>>>>>>> I thank all responses you guys can give us and thank you all in 
>>>>>>>> welcoming me to the list.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>> Shannon Gerdts 
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