Hi Shannon and Kelly In my opinion, voiceover is a serious screen reader which is a serious contender with window was in Jaws. Having said that, I think that it's not voiceover that's limited, it's the applications which your work with it or don't, depending on whether of the developer Roos contacted Apple for the information they needed to make it work. This also assumes that they thought of us in the first place. There are some blind people these days that have really no useful windows and Leslie want it. iPhone one could do without it forever. Regards, GG
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks all for your responses. I guess the last question that we have yet to > really get an answer on is when someone during one of their responses > mentioned that the accessibility of voiceover isn’t as great as windows, or > did they say it’s rather limited. Is this truly the case, and if so what is > the details on this as this answer is going to weigh heavily on what we > decide to do for purchasing the next computer. > Also, I’m assuming no one has any information on when the newest macbook > pros will be coming out since we’ve been looking at the newest macbook pro > which has been out now for almost a year so would seem that they’re due for > an updated version here in the near future. > > Take care, > Shannon Gerdts > > From: Maria & Joe Chapman > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:03 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows > > HI. I didn't bother with the trial version I just bought it. > > Don't know if that makes a difference or not. > > > Maria Chapman > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > > "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - > Mahatma Gandhi > > On 07/04/2013, at 5:56 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I never had any luck running VMWare fusion for windows. But, in all >> fairness, I was running a trial version, and I had imported my bootcamp >> partition as the guest OS. >> >> I should just take the plunge and buy VMWare. I suppose there's enough >> knowledgeable people on the list who could help me through the rough spots. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Maria & Joe Chapman >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Serious question about Mac vs. Windows >> >> HI. I've owned my mac for over a year now. I do run a vm from time to time >> but am finding less and less need to go in to windows. It did take me a >> while to learn, but the thing I love about the mac is that it just seems to >> work. No laggie pauses when you hit a key and wait for 5 seconds for a >> screen reader to tell you what's happening etc. I feel like I have the best >> of both worlds, I can use windows if I need to, and I can have the stability >> of the mac. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> >> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. >> Email/ I Message: &fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >> twitter: bubbygirl >> skype: bubbygirl1972 >> >> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 04/04/2013, at 10:32 PM, Brandt <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I bought my Mac about two months ago, at the same time, I got rid of my >>> Windows computer totally. Not very long thereafter, my fiancé got her mac. >>> Okay, she still wants to chuck it threw a wall from time to time, but that >>> phase is also passing now. >>> >>> The mac to me, is more intuitive, it seems to me as though Apple wants to >>> make the interface more like that of the iPad, in so doing, making the OS >>> easier to learn. >>> >>> Okay, the fact that Apple tries to protect the users from themselves is >>> annoying from time to time, though that can be worked around as well. >>> >>> As someone said earlier, when an app conks out on you, the whole system >>> doesn't go with it, and that is worth the cost difference to me. How many >>> times have I had my windows computer freeze on me because of one app, I >>> honestly cannot say. This however, does never happen on the Mac, not to my >>> knowledge anyway. >>> >>> Another point to the Mac, is the fact that if and or when your operating >>> system breaks, you can do a complete reinstall on your own, something which >>> is impossible using windows. >>> >>> Something else that benefits me greatly, is the built in dictation feature >>> of Mountain lion. Due to only having one hand, my typing speed has been >>> decreased by at least half. Now, that is no longer a factor, and another >>> reason why the mac is cost effective for me. It increased my productivity >>> two levels higher than before I lost the use of my hand, obviously because >>> I can talk faster than I could ever type. >>> >>> There you have my contribution to the Mac versus Windows debate, no matter >>> how insignificant it maybe. >>> >>> Warm regards, >>> >>> Brandt Steenkamp >>> >>> Sent from my macbook pro >>> >>> Contact me: >>> >>> Mobile/iMessage/WatsApp: +27781205013 >>> >>> Email: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com >>> >>> My ring to Skype: >>> California, United States >>> +(1)760-5140161 >>> Extension 512 >>> Cape Town, South Africa >>> +(27)213-002317 >>> Extension 161 >>> Johannesburg, South Africa >>> +(27)105-002316 >>> Extension 170 >>> >>> Skype: Brandt.steenkamp007 >>> >>> SIP: 5500...@spokn.com >>> >>> Twitter: brandtsteenkamp >>> >>> On 04 Apr 2013, at 1:17 AM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm the same way, I have a windows 7 computer for those rare times I use >>>> it which I do as it's connected to the tv and that is how we watch tv. >>>> On 2013-04-03, at 2:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there >>>>> Personally, I like TextEdit and pages better than I like in this word. >>>>> This is because MS Word offers me more options that I want to deal with. >>>>> When I made the switch, I had choices because I am self-employed, and I >>>>> could call my customer and tell her that I was Changing and therefore, I >>>>> was no longer going to use tables. I do make Excel files by converting >>>>> them from Numbers. I have of voided putting windows on my computer like >>>>> the plague. It's just prejudice. Also, my husband has a Windows computer >>>>> which has just 13 on it. So, if I have a burning need to use Windows, I >>>>> can use his computer, something I do about once a year. The big thing I >>>>> use it for is editing PDF files such as forms. That is something we need >>>>> added for the Macintosh. I hope this information helps. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I will do my best to chime in on this subject. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used windows since 1995 in college and 1998 at home. I found the >>>>>> switch fro Windows to Mac rather arduous because my computer had a >>>>>> couple not serious issues and I didn't have training (I hadn't found >>>>>> this list yet) Once the learning curve was over, I find Mac easier and >>>>>> more intuitive but there are some things I like better about windows to >>>>>> this day. I like the feedback that voice over provides, for example, >>>>>> when copying and pasting, but I like burning css on windows better. For >>>>>> utilizing talking communities chat client, I prefer windows but for >>>>>> Skype I prefer Mac. >>>>>> On 2013-04-03, at 12:36 PM, "Shannon Gerdts" <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello list, >>>>>>> I'm a new subscriber as of today and would like to ask this direct >>>>>>> question without getting a lot of elitest Mac/Windows mentalities. >>>>>>> What I mean by this is I would love to get some feedback from you guys >>>>>>> on the list about an unbiased bit of feedback on your experiences with >>>>>>> the Mac. I also would like to know what you guys have experienced as >>>>>>> being pros to the switch from a windows machine to that of a Mac >>>>>>> system as well as cons if there is any. Have any of you used boot camp >>>>>>> or another way of running windows successfully on a Mac? >>>>>>> The reason I want to get this information is because my wife just >>>>>>> recently had her Toshiba laptop give out on her after just three to >>>>>>> four years and is rather disappointed with her experiences in windows >>>>>>> laptops so she is tossing around the idea of a Mac. However, before >>>>>>> making the decision to just jump into the decision she >>>>>>> would like to get as much information as possible and weigh the >>>>>>> advantages and disadvantages first so that she makes the best decision >>>>>>> for her in the long run without being stuck shelling out money on a >>>>>>> system she won't like. I ask about running Windows in boot camp or >>>>>>> through another avenue because she enjoys mudding and uses VIP mud >>>>>>> which is made only for windows so will likely need to use this in the >>>>>>> short term at the very least until she can find a client that works as >>>>>>> well with voiceover on the Mac. >>>>>>> I thank all responses you guys can give us and thank you all in >>>>>>> welcoming me to the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>> Shannon Gerdts >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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