I think you're right. lol. Though in many ways I like the new interface. Cheers, Donna On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No problem. I'm starting to think that extra time apple took to 'make > everything right' didn't' pay off. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:07 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out > > Yeah, thanks. Will do. > Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot. > Cheers, > Donna > On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's really weird, because I don't have that problem. Write to >> accessibil...@apple.com, and explain your exact configuration. >> What model mac you have, OS version, etc. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >> >> OK, so I navigate over to Albums and do VO-Space. then I arrow over >> to the list of albums, and VO-arrow down to the one I want. I press >> VO-Space, and VO says "Album Details. I interact with that, and VO >> over to where it says Album tracks. I interact again. There's >> obviously a grid there, but all I hear is "Blank, Text". >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:53 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>> >>> Hi Daniel, >>> >>> Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the >>> same issue, it might be useful to keep it on list. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of >>>> something if you'd like? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>> >>>> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have >>>>> your library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>> >>>>> That's exactly what I'm doing. But when I'm in the list of tracks, >>>>> all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text." And if I VO-arrow >>>>> right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text". >>>>> Best, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, it >>>>>> will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, and >>>>>> then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the album >>>>>> tracks >>>> grid. >>>>>> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about >>>>>> it, the interface makes a lot of sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks. I hear VO say album grid, >>>>>> but I don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks. >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There's an album track grid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister >>>>>>> Ekstrom >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set >>>>>>> to albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have > chosen? >>>>>>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was >>>>>>> a table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now. >>>>>>> No, i do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the new >>>>>>> one, but i want >>>>>> to know this. >>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of >>>>>>>> radio >>>>>> buttons. >>>>>>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined. >>>>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>>>> You can switch to list view. >>>>>>>>> There are three radio buttons. >>>>>>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps >>>>>>>>>> there is a way >>>>>>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no >>>>>>> way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice >>>>>>> long >>> list. >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>> personally like the library. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes >>>>> library? >>>>>>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell >>>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only >>>>>>>>>>> allows you >>>>>>> to cue up songs in the library though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a >>>>>>>>>>> file using >>>>>>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I >>>>>>> know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you >>>>>>>>>>> could even >>>>>>> do that. >>>>>>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, >>>>>>>>>>> and refuses >>>>>>> to read with jaws when you show it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to >>>>>>>>>>> add files >>>>>>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally >>>>>>> fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it >>>>>>> was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? >> >>>>>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>> this possible? >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing >>>>>>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, >>>>>>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm >>>>>>>>>>> not quite >>>>>>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to >>>>>>> not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them >>>>>>> to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you >> lose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>>> >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups. >>>>>>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 >>>>>>>>>>> from what >>>>>>> you've seen so far? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes >>>>>>>>>>> is still >>>>>>> as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it >>>>>>> will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from >>>>>>> scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record >>>>>>> myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the >>>>>>> original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really >>>>>>> rather not do >>>>>> that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clutters up drive space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the >>>>>>>>>>> Windows side of things. >>>>>>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard >>>>>>>>>>> Ring >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so > easily. >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player >>>>>>>>>>> and redesigned store is now available for download. 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