Yeah, I agree. Donna On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh don't get me wrong, I like it too, I just feel like they could've > polished it a bit accessibility wise before releasing it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out > > I think you're right. lol. Though in many ways I like the new interface. > Cheers, > Donna > On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No problem. I'm starting to think that extra time apple took to 'make >> everything right' didn't' pay off. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:07 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >> >> Yeah, thanks. Will do. >> Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> That's really weird, because I don't have that problem. Write to >>> accessibil...@apple.com, and explain your exact configuration. >>> What model mac you have, OS version, etc. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>> >>> OK, so I navigate over to Albums and do VO-Space. then I arrow over >>> to the list of albums, and VO-arrow down to the one I want. I press >>> VO-Space, and VO says "Album Details. I interact with that, and VO >>> over to where it says Album tracks. I interact again. There's >>> obviously a grid there, but all I hear is "Blank, Text". >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:53 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Daniel, >>>> >>>> Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the >>>> same issue, it might be useful to keep it on list. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of >>>>> something if you'd like? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>> >>>>> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have >>>>>> your library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> That's exactly what I'm doing. But when I'm in the list of >>>>>> tracks, all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text." And if I >>>>>> VO-arrow right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text". >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, >>>>>>> it will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, >>>>>>> and then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the >>>>>>> album tracks >>>>> grid. >>>>>>> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about >>>>>>> it, the interface makes a lot of sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna >>>>>>> Goodin >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks. I hear VO say album grid, >>>>>>> but I don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's an album track grid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister >>>>>>>> Ekstrom >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set >>>>>>>> to albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have >> chosen? >>>>>>>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was >>>>>>>> a table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now. >>>>>>>> No, i do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the >>>>>>>> new one, but i want >>>>>>> to know this. >>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of >>>>>>>>> radio >>>>>>> buttons. >>>>>>>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined. >>>>>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>>>>> You can switch to list view. >>>>>>>>>> There are three radio buttons. >>>>>>>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps >>>>>>>>>>> there is a way >>>>>>>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's >>>>>>>> no way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice >>>>>>>> long >>>> list. >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> personally like the library. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the >>>>>>>>>>>> ITunes >>>>>> library? >>>>>>>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell >>>>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only >>>>>>>>>>>> allows you >>>>>>>> to cue up songs in the library though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a >>>>>>>>>>>> file using >>>>>>>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. >>>>>>>> I know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you >>>>>>>>>>>> could even >>>>>>>> do that. >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, >>>>>>>>>>>> and refuses >>>>>>>> to read with jaws when you show it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried >>>>>>>>>>>> to add files >>>>>>>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally >>>>>>>> fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it >>>>>>>> was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes > 11? >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>>> this possible? >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it >>>>>>>>>>>> comes to >>>>>>>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing >>>>>>>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, >>>>>>>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> not quite >>>>>>>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes >>>>>>>> to not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy >>>>>>>> them to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you >>>>>>>> say you >>> lose. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups. >>>>>>>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 >>>>>>>>>>>> from what >>>>>>>> you've seen so far? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes >>>>>>>>>>>> is still >>>>>>>> as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it >>>>>>>> will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from >>>>>>>> scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record >>>>>>>> myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the >>>>>>>> original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd >>>>>>>> really rather not do >>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Clutters up drive space. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows side of things. >>>>>>>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Ring >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so >> easily. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten >>>>>>>>>>>> <motte...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player >>>>>>>>>>>> and redesigned store is now available for download. 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