No problem. I'm starting to think that extra time apple took to 'make everything right' didn't' pay off.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:07 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out Yeah, thanks. Will do. Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot. Cheers, Donna On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's really weird, because I don't have that problem. Write to > accessibil...@apple.com, and explain your exact configuration. > What model mac you have, OS version, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:49 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out > > OK, so I navigate over to Albums and do VO-Space. then I arrow over > to the list of albums, and VO-arrow down to the one I want. I press > VO-Space, and VO says "Album Details. I interact with that, and VO > over to where it says Album tracks. I interact again. There's > obviously a grid there, but all I hear is "Blank, Text". > Cheers, > Donna > On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:53 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >> >> Hi Daniel, >> >> Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the >> same issue, it might be useful to keep it on list. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of >>> something if you'd like? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>> >>> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have >>>> your library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>> >>>> That's exactly what I'm doing. But when I'm in the list of tracks, >>>> all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text." And if I VO-arrow >>>> right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text". >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, it >>>>> will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, and >>>>> then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the album >>>>> tracks >>> grid. >>>>> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about >>>>> it, the interface makes a lot of sense. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks. I hear VO say album grid, >>>>> but I don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There's an album track grid. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister >>>>>> Ekstrom >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set >>>>>> to albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have chosen? >>>>>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was >>>>>> a table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now. >>>>>> No, i do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the new >>>>>> one, but i want >>>>> to know this. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of >>>>>>> radio >>>>> buttons. >>>>>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined. >>>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>>> You can switch to list view. >>>>>>>> There are three radio buttons. >>>>>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps >>>>>>>>> there is a way >>>>>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no >>>>>> way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice >>>>>> long >> list. >>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>> personally like the library. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah, of course. But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes >>>> library? >>>>>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell >>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only >>>>>>>>>> allows you >>>>>> to cue up songs in the library though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a >>>>>>>>>> file using >>>>>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file. I >>>>>> know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you >>>>>>>>>> could even >>>>>> do that. >>>>>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, >>>>>>>>>> and refuses >>>>>> to read with jaws when you show it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray >>>>>>>>>> Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem. Every single time I tried to >>>>>>>>>> add files >>>>>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally >>>>>> fresh OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it >>>>>> was not permitted to add the files themselves to the Library. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11? > >>>>>>>>>> Is >>>>>> this possible? >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing >>>>>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, >>>>>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm >>>>>>>>>> not quite >>>>>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to >>>>>> not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them >>>>>> to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you > lose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>> > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups. >>>>>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 >>>>>>>>>> from what >>>>>> you've seen so far? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes >>>>>>>>>> is still >>>>>> as library dependant as the other versions have been. IF so, it >>>>>> will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from >>>>>> scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record >>>>>> myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the >>>>>> original location and the other in my ITunes library. I'd really >>>>>> rather not do >>>>> that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clutters up drive space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy >>>>>>>>>> Mac user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" >>>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the >>>>>>>>>> Windows side of things. >>>>>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard >>>>>>>>>> Ring >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily. >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player >>>>>>>>>> and redesigned store is now available for download. 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