That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have your library
as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that.

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out

That's exactly what I'm doing.  But when I'm in the list of tracks, all VO
says is "one item selected, Blank text."  And if I VO-arrow right it just
keeps saying, "blank, Text".
Best,
Donna
On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, it 
> will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, and then 
> go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the album tracks grid.
> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about it, 
> the interface makes a lot of sense.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
> 
> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks.  I hear VO say album grid, but I 
> don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> There's an album track grid.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>> 
>> Hi,
>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set to 
>> albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have chosen?
>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was a 
>> table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now. No, i 
>> do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the new one, but 
>> i want
> to know this.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>:
>> 
>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of radio
> buttons.
>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined.
>>> Original message:
>>>> You can switch to list view.
>>>> There are three radio buttons.
>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there is 
>>>>> a way
>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no way 
>> that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long list.
>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. I
>> personally like the library.
>>> 
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret 
>>>>>> Jr
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes
library?
>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell
>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only 
>>>>>> allows you
>> to cue up songs in the library though.
>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file 
>>>>>> using
>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I 
>> know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you could 
>>>>>> even
>> do that.
>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and 
>>>>>> refuses
>> to read with jaws when you show it.
>>> 
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret 
>>>>>> Jr
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to add 
>>>>>> files
>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh 
>> OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not 
>> permitted to add the files themselves to the Library.
>>> 
>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  
>>>>>> Is
>> this possible?
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes to
>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing 
>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, 
>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac.
>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not 
>>>>>> quite
>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to not 
>> place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them to the 
>> library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
>>> 
>>>>>> From: 
>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.
>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 from 
>>>>>> what
>> you've seen so far?
>>> 
>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is 
>>>>>> still
>> as library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it will 
>> mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from scratch 
>> again, and if this collection consists of files I record myself, I 
>> will need to have two copies of each file; one in the original 
>> location and the other in my ITunes library.  I'd really rather not 
>> do
> that.
>>> 
>>>>>> Clutters up drive space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows 
>>>>>> side of things.
>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
>>>>>> Ring
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and 
>>>>>> redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried 
>>>>>> it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac and 
>>>>>> I can see
>> how it works with vo.
>>>>>> Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>> 
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