Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue?

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out

Hi Daniel,

Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the same
issue, it might be useful to keep it on list.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of 
> something if you'd like?
> 
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> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
> 
> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have your 
>> library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>> 
>> That's exactly what I'm doing.  But when I'm in the list of tracks, 
>> all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text."  And if I VO-arrow 
>> right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text".
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, it 
>>> will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, and 
>>> then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the album 
>>> tracks
> grid.
>>> Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about it, 
>>> the interface makes a lot of sense.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:25 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>> Yeah, but how do you see the tracks.  I hear VO say album grid, but 
>>> I don't seem to be able to see the list of tracks.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There's an album track grid.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister 
>>>> Ekstrom
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:34 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> One thing i can't get my head around is, if i have the view set to 
>>>> albums, how can i see the list of tracks on an album i have chosen?
>>>> This no longer does seem to work. In previous versions there was a 
>>>> table with the tracks of a chosen album but this is gone now. No, i 
>>>> do not want the old interface back, i want to learn the new one, 
>>>> but i want
>>> to know this.
>>>> /Krister
>>>> 
>>>> 30 nov 2012 kl. 16:27 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, after looking closer at the window, I found the set of radio
>>> buttons.
>>>> Over all I like the new interface, much more stream lined.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> You can switch to list view.
>>>>>> There are three radio buttons.
>>>>>> One thing i do like is the ability to see shows in the cloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One thing I don't like about the new version, and perhaps there 
>>>>>>> is a way
>>>> to change this, it groups your tv shows by season now, there's no 
>>>> way that I can find to just get a list of all shows in a nice long
list.
>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:14 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you don't want to use the library, then you're out of luck. 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>> personally like the library.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret 
>>>>>>>> Jr
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:06 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ah, of course.  But, suppose you don't want to use the ITunes
>> library?
>>>> that's always been my beaf with ITunes anyhow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Matthew Campbell
>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>> iTunes 11 does have a new feature called up next. This only 
>>>>>>>> allows you
>>>> to cue up songs in the library though.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-29, at 2:56 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, what I mean is that I wanted to be able to locate a file 
>>>>>>>> using
>>>> finder and cue it up in ITunes to play after the current file.  I 
>>>> know that, ITunes has never allowed files to be play in that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do you mean directly from the finder? I never knew you 
>>>>>>>> could even
>>>> do that.
>>>>>>>> Also, for windows users, the menu bar is hidden by default, and 
>>>>>>>> refuses
>>>> to read with jaws when you show it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret 
>>>>>>>> Jr
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:40 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, you see, I had a problem.  Every single time I tried to 
>>>>>>>> add files
>>>> to my last ITunes Library, (this was just prior to my totally fresh 
>>>> OS reinstall), ITunes would crash every single time if it was not 
>>>> permitted to add the files themselves to the Library.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What about playing files directly from the finder with Itunes 11?  
>>>>>>>> Is
>>>> this possible?
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:28 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From a Mac perspective, things are much cleaner when it comes 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>> navigating around the UI. On Windows, there's even more tabbing 
>>>> around than there used to be, and that annoys me. Thankfully, 
>>>> however, I use it primarily on the Mac.
>>>>>>>> As far as libraries, yes, it still uses them, although I'm not 
>>>>>>>> quite
>>>> sure why you'd need 2 copies of each file. You can tell iTunes to 
>>>> not place the files in the media folder itself when you copy them 
>>>> to the library, therefore freeing up that drive space you say you lose.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: 
>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.
>>>>>>>> com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:18 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What are the primary differences we can expect in ITunes 11 
>>>>>>>> from what
>>>> you've seen so far?
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am operating on the assumption that this version of ITunes is 
>>>>>>>> still
>>>> as library dependant as the other versions have been.  IF so, it 
>>>> will mean that, when I start rebuilding my audio collection from 
>>>> scratch again, and if this collection consists of files I record 
>>>> myself, I will need to have two copies of each file; one in the 
>>>> original location and the other in my ITunes library.  I'd really 
>>>> rather not do
>>> that.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Clutters up drive space.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Daniel Miller" 
>>>>>>>> <miller...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the 
>>>>>>>> Windows side of things.
>>>>>>>> Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
>>>>>>>> Ring
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:23 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and 
>>>>>>>> redesigned store is now available for download. I haven't tried 
>>>>>>>> it yet and don't plan to until my husband puts it on his Mac 
>>>>>>>> and I can see
>>>> how it works with vo.
>>>>>>>> Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
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