Cody, in some cases, to speak frankly, it is a matter of not being familiar with how to use Voice Over. Tim was not, I think, trying to insult you; and, nor am I. you're taking this rather too personally I fear. A practical suggestion, (and one which I myself might have to try soon) did you try to run a clean installation yet? I mean go in to the partitian, use the utilities to completely format the hard drive, (after backing your volume to an external drive of course) and then doing a fresh clean install?
Your descriptions almost would lead me to suggest that this is what you might attempt next. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Cody wrote: > No, I disagree. There is no reason why voiceover should randomly decide to > stop functioning properly in safari, which it has done, and continues to do > for me, specifically, as said prior, about the web roter and quicknav, some > windows, like the "do you wish to send the form again?" box will pop up but > voiceover won't focus on it, and neither command accent or voiceover f2 will > allow me access to this dialog. Furthermore, I am unable to quit out of > safari while this window is open. I have run into issues with voiceover in > safari where I will go back to a previous webpage, and then again try to use > element navigation like jump to headings and such or links either by pressing > voiceover command and whatever letter or by using the up and down arrow keys. > This sometimes results in voiceover just reading the title of the page, for > no reason without performing the requested function it is supposed to do. And > you're going to tell me I don't know what I'm doing? It may perhaps be a > machine specific thing, but I am mostly doubting this. I think it is a > voiceover bug and/or a safari issue. Out of all the qwurks in osx 10.7, > safari is the worst. And, I am not the only person with safari issues, I get > busy busy busy as well, and snow leopard was far more useable with safari. > Other people on this list have had the same issues I'm having, so it is > clearly not me. And once again, it is not inteligence, because I've gone to > technical schooling for 2 years and have worked on many many computers in > many many different situations. So, let's disregard the inteligence factor it > clearly has no place in this conversation, which only leaves 2 options. 1, > it's machine specific, which if this is the case, prove it. or 2, it's a bug, > which needs to be addressed. These are the only 2 options the bugs could > realistically be. > > Cody > On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi, >> I won't take sides here, as I don't believe that it is a "sides" issue. >> Levels of comfort and ease of adaptability to the changes in look and feel >> of Lion vary with individuals and they should do whatever they feel so that >> their experience remains positive. >> >> You may find, though, that you will be unable to install SL on a Lion >> machine, as Apple often makes it more or less impossible to install a >> "lower" OS on a system once the latest OS has been released. I've got >> around it a few times with Net Restore images deployed from an OS X Server, >> but most people don't have access to this technology. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2011-11-10, at 12:31 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I want to start off this post by saying that I installed Lion the day it >>> came out on my Macbook Pro. Before doing so, I made a time machine backup >>> of my Snow Leopard system, and I can't tell you how glad I am that I did. I >>> tried Lion for a week, and found it to be terribly buggy and not nearly as >>> intuitive to use as SL. I restored my computer back to SL, and have >>> continued using it since. Recently, a friend of mine got a brand new iMac >>> with Lion installed. He has been calling me asking for help understanding >>> how to do some very simple things. using the mail program, entering a tun >>> of contacts into his address book, and using Safari to listen to a webcast >>> he particularly likes. While we handled mail without much difficulty, I >>> must say that Safari and Address Book have been riddled with problems. >>> Safari will often give us the busy signal, and the address book kicks us >>> out of the fields and deposits us in some sort of no mans land where we >>> must command tab back and forth to get free. He has updated to Lion 10.7.2, >>> and yet this hasn't really fixed the issues. The nonsense with creating >>> multiple desktops and such was a bit annoying too. I wonder if maybe simple >>> is better some times. It's sad, but as I purchased a snow leopard full >>> installation disc for him, I'm going to go down to his house and put SL on >>> his machine so that he can actually have a good experience using his mac >>> rather than the flawed and terribly buggy one he's been having. That's not >>> to say that SL doesn't have its problems, but they are far fewer than Lion >>> it seems. I hope that Apple will take a page from Microsoft and move >>> quickly on to the next OS as Microsoft did from Vista to 7. I'm afraid Lion >>> is a lemon. >>> I'm curious to know about your experiences with Lion versus Snow Leopard. >>> >>> Friendly, >>> Chris >>> -------------- >>> I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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