I agree with you Cody. So many bugs are machine-specific. I don't think it's
fair or correct for anyone to imply that the problems that many list members
are experiencing is due to a lack of knowledge or unwillingness to learn.
Allison
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Lion, a lemon?

Lion works fine for me, but the only problem I've had, like with everyone
else, is with safari, where the quicknav keys for the web roter, decide to
stop working when going back in a session, where the up and down keys just
announce the title of the page and stop doing anything useful. I am an
advanced user, and I do think a lot of issues do come from beginners just
not knowing what they are doing at first, but yes, Lion, or at least
voiceover in lion has some bugs, on my end, and on more than one machine.


Cody
On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> I am one of those politically incorrect people who haven't had a single
problem with Lion. I installed it on day 1 and haven't looked back since. I
will probably get flamed for saying this, but i think it has to do with
learning. After all, Lion had several new features and several modifications
were made to the way we work, and of corse, it goes almost without saying
that we have to rethink how we do things. I haven't had more busy signals
than usual with Safari in Lion. The only issues i have had is a bug in the
swedish nuance voices where certain letters aren't pronounced correctly, but
i was aware of that bug already before i upgraded and wanted to try Lion out
despite that, and i've found a workaround for the bug, so all is well there
and besides, Apple are aware of that bug and they seem to have fixed it on
the IOs  side, so i have good hopes that they will fix it here too,
eventually.
> /Krister
> 
> 10 nov 2011 kl. 08:31 skrev Chris Snyder:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I want to start off this post by saying that I installed Lion the day it
came out on my Macbook Pro. Before doing so, I made a time machine backup of
my Snow Leopard system, and I can't tell you how glad I am that I did. I
tried Lion for a week, and found it to be terribly buggy and not nearly as
intuitive to use as SL. I restored my computer back to SL, and have
continued using it since. Recently, a friend of mine got a brand new iMac
with Lion installed. He has been calling me asking for help understanding
how to do some very simple things. using the mail program, entering a tun of
contacts into his address book, and using Safari to listen to a webcast he
particularly likes. While we handled mail without much difficulty, I must
say that Safari and Address Book have been riddled with problems. Safari
will often give us the busy signal, and the address book kicks us out of the
fields and deposits us in some sort of no mans land where we must command
tab back and forth to get free. He has updated to Lion 10.7.2, and yet this
hasn't really fixed the issues. The nonsense with creating multiple desktops
and such was a bit annoying too. I wonder if maybe simple is better some
times. It's sad, but as I purchased a snow leopard full installation disc
for him, I'm going to go down to his house and put SL on his machine so that
he can actually have a good experience using his mac rather than the flawed
and terribly buggy one he's been having. That's not to say that SL doesn't
have its problems, but they are far fewer than Lion it seems. I hope that
Apple will take a page from Microsoft and move quickly on to the next OS as
Microsoft did from Vista to 7. I'm afraid Lion is a lemon.
>> I'm curious to know about your experiences with Lion versus Snow Leopard.

>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
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