Hi, All this having been said, i'm surpriced that VO can't reach the status menu in other ways than described, i.e using the mouse or track pad to get to the menu, because the menu itself is accessible in that you actually can get into and manipulate the applications menus and given the fact that many programs only can be accessed through the status menu it's even more strange. I think this is VOs biggest issue as of today. Most other things can be worked around and/or will eventually be fixed, so i believe. Are Apple aware of the status menu issue? I'm reluctant to bothering Apple too much, probably for fear of loosing all accessibility, but maybe we should write ever so politely to Apple and describe the problem with not being able to access the programs status menu or whatever it's called by way of voiceover commands. /Krister
10 nov 2011 kl. 11:12 skrev Ray Foret Jr: > I'm going to side with Crister on this one. The only thing I remember about > Lion first coming out was that a number of us had to get used to the > differences in the way mail worked. Once done, all seemed well. Even the > issue of not being able to focus on the hidden menu bars can be resolved by > just having Voice Over speak text under the mouse and then manually moving > the mouse to the left until the hidden menu is exposed. Then, clicking on > that item will force the menu to come up. This even works for Drop Box to a > certain extent. but, regretfully, you still cannot get in to the Drop Box > Prefs menu. this, however, is a fault of Drop Box and L not a Lion factor. > > In short, Lion (especially in 10.7.2) is much better. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, >> I am one of those politically incorrect people who haven't had a single >> problem with Lion. I installed it on day 1 and haven't looked back since. I >> will probably get flamed for saying this, but i think it has to do with >> learning. After all, Lion had several new features and several modifications >> were made to the way we work, and of corse, it goes almost without saying >> that we have to rethink how we do things. I haven't had more busy signals >> than usual with Safari in Lion. The only issues i have had is a bug in the >> swedish nuance voices where certain letters aren't pronounced correctly, but >> i was aware of that bug already before i upgraded and wanted to try Lion out >> despite that, and i've found a workaround for the bug, so all is well there >> and besides, Apple are aware of that bug and they seem to have fixed it on >> the IOs side, so i have good hopes that they will fix it here too, >> eventually. >> /Krister >> >> 10 nov 2011 kl. 08:31 skrev Chris Snyder: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I want to start off this post by saying that I installed Lion the day it >>> came out on my Macbook Pro. Before doing so, I made a time machine backup >>> of my Snow Leopard system, and I can't tell you how glad I am that I did. I >>> tried Lion for a week, and found it to be terribly buggy and not nearly as >>> intuitive to use as SL. I restored my computer back to SL, and have >>> continued using it since. Recently, a friend of mine got a brand new iMac >>> with Lion installed. He has been calling me asking for help understanding >>> how to do some very simple things. using the mail program, entering a tun >>> of contacts into his address book, and using Safari to listen to a webcast >>> he particularly likes. While we handled mail without much difficulty, I >>> must say that Safari and Address Book have been riddled with problems. >>> Safari will often give us the busy signal, and the address book kicks us >>> out of the fields and deposits us in some sort of no mans land where we >>> must command tab back and forth to get free. He has updated to Lion 10.7.2, >>> and yet this hasn't really fixed the issues. The nonsense with creating >>> multiple desktops and such was a bit annoying too. I wonder if maybe simple >>> is better some times. It's sad, but as I purchased a snow leopard full >>> installation disc for him, I'm going to go down to his house and put SL on >>> his machine so that he can actually have a good experience using his mac >>> rather than the flawed and terribly buggy one he's been having. That's not >>> to say that SL doesn't have its problems, but they are far fewer than Lion >>> it seems. I hope that Apple will take a page from Microsoft and move >>> quickly on to the next OS as Microsoft did from Vista to 7. I'm afraid Lion >>> is a lemon. >>> I'm curious to know about your experiences with Lion versus Snow Leopard. >>> >>> Friendly, >>> Chris >>> -------------- >>> I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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