HI Paul,
Please see response below inline.
On 9/27/11, Paul Erkens<paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
What things did you actually achieve with the google stuff you are so
happy
about? Google docs has been a problem for a long time. I know that people
have been working on it in cooperation with google, and that alone is
already exciting, but I'm curious about a few things before I dive in.
As a college student and an employee where professors, students, and
co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting,
empowering, and equalising that I am able to use it as well with a
consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For
me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web
browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also
tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables) and Safari (also
tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive.
However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs,
and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac.
1. When you start to use chrome, which is just another browser, like
safari
is the main one on the mac, can you use the chrome browser with voiceover
to
start with?
Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs
with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with
HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB
key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will
require several attempts, and many other issues.
2. If you can, what does the chromevox extension give you on top of it?
If
you can not use chrome with voiceover, does chrome plus chromevox then
give
you equal performance than safari does, when visiting other websites? In
other words, would you say that chrome is a good replacement for safari?
ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome,
removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be
done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a
web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver
do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox.
3. When using google docs, is it true that many people can work on a
document simultaneously, and can you now easily see who changed what?
Yes, all of this is possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's
possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss
various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can
make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as
they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also
accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents
and spreadsheets.
4. What are the current do's and don'ts, that you found out about, in the
environment? In other words, what things is the environment good at, from
an
accessibility point of view?
It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in
feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates
addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and
other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web
browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and
Gmail are the great highlights.
Very curious.
Please give it a try. Google has great documentation (user guide,
keyboard command reference, Docs screen reader help, and interactive
tutorial).
Paul.
Kevin
On Sep 27, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Kevin Chao wrote:
Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible
job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome
extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail).
This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and
top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and
a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially
documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and
ChromeVox extension and find it to be great.
Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a
universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity
suite.
Google Chrome Canary (Mac/Windows platform powering ChromeVox/Apps):
http://j.mp/oWZ7Of
Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension
http://j.mp/nmnNR5
ChromeVox User Guide:
http://t.co/b9ABBkv
Use Google Docs with a screen reader
http://goo.gl/cmeHV
Google accessibility feedback:
http://goo.gl/wePru
FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with
Chrome/ChromeVox.
Kevin
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