HI Paul, Please see response below inline.
On 9/27/11, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Kevin, > What things did you actually achieve with the google stuff you are so happy > about? Google docs has been a problem for a long time. I know that people > have been working on it in cooperation with google, and that alone is > already exciting, but I'm curious about a few things before I dive in. As a college student and an employee where professors, students, and co-workers are all using Google Docs. It's extremely exciting, empowering, and equalizing that I am able to use it as well with a consistent and unified experience on Mac OS X and other platforms. For me, Mac OS X with the various productivity/office suite and web browser have not allowed me to be productive, such as iWork (also tried Open Office, Libra Office, Bean, and Tables) and Safari (also tried Webkit and Lightning) have not allowed me to be productive. However, Google has changed all of this. With Chrome, ChromeVox, Docs, and other Google Apps; I am able to be productive on my Mac. > 1. When you start to use chrome, which is just another browser, like safari > is the main one on the mac, can you use the chrome browser with voiceover to > start with? Voiceover will work with Chrome, but the very same issues that occurs with Safari will exist, such as focus lost, inability to interact with HTML content, web rotor/item chooser missing elements/items, lag, TAB key being inconsistent, moving among various HTML elements will require several attempts, and many other issues. > 2. If you can, what does the chromevox extension give you on top of it? If > you can not use chrome with voiceover, does chrome plus chromevox then give > you equal performance than safari does, when visiting other websites? In > other words, would you say that chrome is a good replacement for safari? ChromeVox is an extension that has very deep integration with Chrome, removes several layers of abstractions, and allows for things to be done that traditional desktop screen readers cannot due to it being a web browser extension. All the issues I detailed with Safari/VoiceOver do not exist in Chrome/ChromeVox. > 3. When using google docs, is it true that many people can work on a > document simultaneously, and can you now easily see who changed what? Yes, all of this is possible with Docs, is accessible, and it's possible to use other real-time features, such as chat to discuss various points with others who you are collaborating with, several can make changes, and it's possible to review/edit all these changes as they're occurring. Inserting, viewing, and editing comments are also accessible. All of this and much more with Docs applies to documents and spreadsheets. > 4. What are the current do's and don'ts, that you found out about, in the > environment? In other words, what things is the environment good at, from an > accessibility point of view? It's a work in progress, with Google being very interested in feedback/input, great open communication, and will soon have updates addressing lots of areas, which includes new features, bug fixes, and other items, which are based on feedback. Essentially, a great web browser and access to standard/new versions of Docs, Calendar, and Gmail are the great highlights. > Very curious. Please give it a try. Google has great documentation (user guide, keyboard command reference, Docs screen reader help, and interactive tutorial). > Paul. Kevin > On Sep 27, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Google is very committed, understanding, and has done an incredible >> job with accessibility. In particular, Chrome, ChromeVox (Chrome >> extension), Apps (Docs [documents/spreadsheets], Calendar, and Gmail). >> This package results in a very effective, efficient, powerful, and >> top-notch productivity suite. All is needed is Chrome, ChromeVox, and >> a Gmail/Apps ID. I've been using Google apps, especially >> documents/spreadsheets for the last several days within Chrome and >> ChromeVox extension and find it to be great. >> >> Please see below for all the links/details needed to get going with a >> universally accessible, powerful, robust, and first-class productivity >> suite. >> >> Google Chrome Canary (Mac/Windows platform powering ChromeVox/Apps): >> http://j.mp/oWZ7Of >> Installing ChromeVox as a packed extension >> http://j.mp/nmnNR5 >> ChromeVox User Guide: >> http://t.co/b9ABBkv >> Use Google Docs with a screen reader >> http://goo.gl/cmeHV >> Google accessibility feedback: >> http://goo.gl/wePru >> >> FYI: new/standard UI/look/view is recommended and will work with >> Chrome/ChromeVox. >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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