Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what they were getting at. On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Nic, > > Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same reaction > as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the box. They > just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm a bit confused here. >> >> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a >> real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this >> was not quite the case." >> >> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't think >>> they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put >>> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of >>> the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree >>> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>> >>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives >>>> of the product which is good. >>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is >>>> not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires >>>> all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will be >>>>> writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is for >>>>> you all to read. >>>>> >>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >>>>> blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format but >>>>> will read on text edit and such on the mac. >>>>> thanks >>>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_news_reports.aspx >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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