I see why you would say this about the article, the low vision users aspect at least. Although they do say a low vision and a blind user. Seems to me the blind user didn't have much to comment on.
On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:05, Esther wrote: > Hi Marie, Nic, and Others, > > I'd like to point out that the earlier iPad podcast review by Shelly and the > RNIB article seemed mostly done by low vision users. Although weight is a > factor (1.5 pounds), may I remind list members that a totally blind person > does not have to worry about holding the iPad at an angle so that they can > "view" the screen? Maybe Olivia or Josh could comment on that. It's > absolutely true that with the curved back you want some kind of case or > support when you use your iPad. If you're in the Apple Store, they have > these little display stands for playing with the device. If you pick the > iPad and put it down on the table, it's less wieldy to hold and operate the > controls, but simply having a good case (in the new designs manufacturers are > coming out with) might address the issue of supporting the device. Just some > thoughts here from someone who has (briefly) held and used the iPad in an > Apple Store. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > marie Howarth wrote: > >> yes Nick, agreed. Until I get my hands on one, the weight question is >> something I can't comment on. The low vision stuff I can't either. But as an >> initial review its not too scathing and yet not too promoting either. >> >> On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm a bit confused here. >>> >>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >>> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a >>> real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, >>> this was not quite the case." >>> >>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >>> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >>> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >>> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >>> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put >>>> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of >>>> the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree >>>> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>>> >>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >>>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and >>>>> negatives of the product which is good. >>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >>>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is >>>>> not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and >>>>> requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will >>>>>> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is >>>>>> for you all to read. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >>>>>> blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format >>>>>> but will read on text edit and such on the mac. >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_news_reports.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.