I see why you would say this about the article, the low vision users aspect at 
least. Although they do say a low vision and a blind user. Seems to me the 
blind user didn't have much to comment on.

On 20 Apr 2010, at 22:05, Esther wrote:

> Hi Marie, Nic, and Others,
> 
> I'd like to point out that the earlier iPad podcast review by Shelly and the 
> RNIB article seemed mostly done by low vision users.  Although weight is a 
> factor (1.5 pounds), may I remind list members that a totally blind person 
> does not have to worry about holding the iPad at an angle so that they can 
> "view" the screen?  Maybe Olivia or Josh could comment on that.  It's 
> absolutely true that with the curved back you want some kind of case or 
> support when you use your iPad.  If you're in the Apple Store, they have 
> these little display stands for playing with the device.  If you pick the 
> iPad and put it down on the table, it's less wieldy to hold and operate the 
> controls, but simply having a good case (in the new designs manufacturers are 
> coming out with) might address the issue of supporting the device.  Just some 
> thoughts here from someone who has (briefly) held and used the iPad in an 
> Apple Store.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> marie Howarth wrote:
> 
>> yes Nick, agreed. Until I get my hands on one, the weight question is 
>> something I can't comment on. The low vision stuff I can't either. But as an 
>> initial review its not too scathing and yet not too promoting either.
>> 
>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm a bit confused here.
>>> 
>>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it 
>>> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a 
>>> real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box.  Unfortunately, 
>>> this was not quite the case."
>>> 
>>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird 
>>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it 
>>> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by 
>>> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a 
>>> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only 
>>> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't 
>>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the 
>>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put 
>>>> users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of 
>>>> the box that rNIB promotes readily?
>>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree 
>>>> with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions.
>>>> 
>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, 
>>>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and 
>>>>> negatives of the product which is good.
>>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they 
>>>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is 
>>>>> not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and 
>>>>> requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will 
>>>>>> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is 
>>>>>> for you all to read.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the 
>>>>>> blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format 
>>>>>> but will read on text edit and such on the mac.
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_news_reports.aspx
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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