Hi Sarah, this was an exception, not the rule. I am mac and my lady is pc and no sinc issues or any of that. On 2010-04-21, at 5:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> actually someone needed sightee asistence to set up there iphone as itunes > kept giving them an error and it could not sybc thre device or something like > that so I'm kind of nervous about doing this when it come stime for me to get > mine. This was on a windows machine btw. > > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:10 AM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default but >> Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be kind >> of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the >> triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was using >> the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like you say >> Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get them >> working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the insertion of a >> simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be accessible. I don't know >> about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard into my IPhone and >> registered it for me in store when I got it. And with the introduction of >> the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with something that small. >> I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) >> >> On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these >>> blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be >>> turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out >>> of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook >>> them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your >>> content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes via >>> the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out of >>> the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be nice >>> if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to toggle >>> Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to what >>> they were getting at. >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Nic, >>>> >>>> Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same >>>> reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the >>>> box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm a bit confused here. >>>>> >>>>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it >>>>> has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been >>>>> a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, >>>>> this was not quite the case." >>>>> >>>>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >>>>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it >>>>> too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by >>>>> default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a >>>>> product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only >>>>> thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>> My Twitter >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >>>>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>>>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could >>>>>> put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible >>>>>> out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>>>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or >>>>>> disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, >>>>>>> this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and >>>>>>> negatives of the product which is good. >>>>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they >>>>>>> made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This >>>>>>> is not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and >>>>>>> requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will >>>>>>>> be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it >>>>>>>> is for you all to read. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the >>>>>>>> blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format >>>>>>>> but will read on text edit and such on the mac. >>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_news_reports.aspx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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