<smile> Should I mention the "Really Not Interested in Blind" interpretation of their acronym? Oops I just have, sorry...
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth Sent: 20 April 2010 21:46 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad Sadly, I don't think that was the point. Knowing the organisation, they probably don't even know that happens with macs as they are quite quiet when it comes to anything that is not strictly "blind specific". On 20 Apr 2010, at 21:39, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi, > > Nick while I agree with you entirely, I think the point they were trying to > get across is this. When one turns on any kind of mac desktop or laptop, if > no interaction takes place for a specific time VO kicks in. I think that > this might be the kind of thing they wanted to happen with the iPad. > > Of course I could be entirely wrong, and to be honest this doesn't make any > sense, but my feeling is that this is the point the article was trying to > make. > > Cheers, > > Dónal > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen > Sent: 20 April 2010 21:20 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Article from the RNIB about the IPad > > Hi, > > I'm a bit confused here. > > "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning it > has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have been a > real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. Unfortunately, this > was not quite the case." > > These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird > definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make it > too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on by > default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is a > product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the only > thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't > think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the > accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could put > users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible out of > the box that rNIB promotes readily? >> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or disagree > with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >> >> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >> >>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most part, > this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and negatives > of the product which is good. >>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that they > made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. This is not > that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, and requires all > of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty good. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I will > be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But here it is for > you all to read. >>>> >>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for the > blind in the UK. You need to download the article, its in word format but > will read on text edit and such on the mac. >>>> thanks >>>> > http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/computersphones/Pages/technology_ > news_reports.aspx >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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