Simon,

Apple has messed with what comes from the App Store now.  It's usually just a 
smaller file that's less than 100 megs.  Faster download, then when you open 
it, it goes off to Apple-land to do the rest.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 19, 2019, at 15:03, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

You should be able to get it from the ap store,
 
Then it will download to your applications folder and not the downloads folder.
 
Why what is it your getting when you try to dl from app store?
 
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<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 8:08 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: More on my fan high speed problem.
 
Hi!
Just one question.
I guess you have to download Catalina from the web?
I think the app Store version is not the complete package.
Though i can’t find any versions but will dig a little deeper.
/A


19 nov. 2019 kl. 16:57 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,
 
10 degrees.  Wow, that's nice.  Yeah, we have snow already.  Not a huge pile, 
but we seldom get large dumps in our area.  The snow just starts some time in 
October and keeps accumulating until mid April.  Not too bad here today.  About 
-12 this morning although it's only supposed to make it to -8 or so.
 
Good luck with your Catalina exploits.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 19, 2019, at 04:53, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
 
Hi!
Yes my friend!
THat is the best thing to do i guess.
Hope you don’t get lost in the snow up there.
I thought we should get snow now but we got like 10° warm so i am not 
optimistic.
/A


19 nov. 2019 kl. 00:06 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,
 
Yes, there's no reason for a 2015 MBA with 8 GB of RAM to be made a paper 
weight of.  There's some process that is causing the fans to engage, we just 
need to figure out why.  Indexing should already be complete, so that's not an 
option in my opinion.  You've checked Activity Monitor for processes that could 
be taxing the system, so that's less likely, but still not out of the picture.  
If you have everything backed up, you could do a clean install and run it as a 
test computer for a couple of hours without bringing any software or data from 
the backup.  if the fans continue to be a problem, then we know that it has 
nothing to do with your specific installation or data, and more to do with some 
sort of glitch with Catalina and your hardware.  We can go from there if that 
is the case, otherwise, we can restore your MBA from the backup and see if the 
problem persists.
 
Later...
 

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:32, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
 
Hi!
It has 8GB ram so i would be good to go i guess.
/A


18 nov. 2019 kl. 20:19 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
 
Hi,
 
How much RAM do you have in that MBA?  A 2015 model should be fine if it has 8 
GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little.
 
Later...
\  

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Nov 17, 2019, at 15:18, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
 
Hi!
I really not sure what is going on with my macbook air  2015.
Catalina made it  speed up.
Activity manager told me first that VOiceover was the culprit.
But i have reset pram and smc and now Voiceover is not the culprit.

The activity manager gives no idea on what is going on.
Logging out and waiting for several hours does not help.
Maybe its time to buy a new one.
Or i have to live with it.
/A

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