Now now Simon,
We have some  friends  and their  daughter has just graduated as a flight 
attendant on domestic flights. I have to warn you that her father goes to the 
gym regularly, and he’s not a small guy. I’ll have to warn her about you.

> On 20/11/2019, at 11:54, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah and she was very cute to.
>  
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 11:44 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: More on my fan high speed problem.
>  
> Glad I wasn't the Flight Attendant.  The smell would have cost me my lunch.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 15:32, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>  
> I had a 2 hour flight from Auckland to Dunedin weekend before last,
>  
> Final approach in to Dunedin was seemingly windy enough to cause us 2 
> attempts and a divert to chch,
>  
> Which then had me having to wait 4 hours in chch to get a final flight home 
> luckly in NZ the longest light is 2.5 hours direct mine was an hour 5
>  
> Interesting I thought it was great fun,
> The poor flight attendant walking the plane with a garbage bag collecting air 
> sick bags didn’t think it was great.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 11:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: More on my fan high speed problem.
>  
> Yeah, flying when the weather is crappy is not particularly pleasant.  My 
> flights last weekend should have been 5 and a half hours including one 
> lay-over, but the Calgary had a snow storm.  I got to have three lay-overs 
> and over 18 hours instead.  Needless to say, I was a little tuckered for my 
> first day of training.
>  
> Oh well, like goes on :).
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 15:01, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
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> 16 C currently but the winds gusting on and off pretty full on.
>  
> Oh well I’m not flying today so no fun and games like last weekend.
>  
> From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2019 4:58 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: More on my fan high speed problem.
>  
> Hi,
>  
> 10 degrees.  Wow, that's nice.  Yeah, we have snow already.  Not a huge pile, 
> but we seldom get large dumps in our area.  The snow just starts some time in 
> October and keeps accumulating until mid April.  Not too bad here today.  
> About -12 this morning although it's only supposed to make it to -8 or so.
>  
> Good luck with your Catalina exploits.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 04:53, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
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> Hi!
> Yes my friend!
> THat is the best thing to do i guess.
> Hope you don’t get lost in the snow up there.
> I thought we should get snow now but we got like 10° warm so i am not 
> optimistic.
> /A
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 19 nov. 2019 kl. 00:06 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, there's no reason for a 2015 MBA with 8 GB of RAM to be made a paper 
> weight of.  There's some process that is causing the fans to engage, we just 
> need to figure out why.  Indexing should already be complete, so that's not 
> an option in my opinion.  You've checked Activity Monitor for processes that 
> could be taxing the system, so that's less likely, but still not out of the 
> picture.  If you have everything backed up, you could do a clean install and 
> run it as a test computer for a couple of hours without bringing any software 
> or data from the backup.  if the fans continue to be a problem, then we know 
> that it has nothing to do with your specific installation or data, and more 
> to do with some sort of glitch with Catalina and your hardware.  We can go 
> from there if that is the case, otherwise, we can restore your MBA from the 
> backup and see if the problem persists.
>  
> Later...
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:32, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
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> Hi!
> It has 8GB ram so i would be good to go i guess.
> /A
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 18 nov. 2019 kl. 20:19 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> How much RAM do you have in that MBA?  A 2015 model should be fine if it has 
> 8 GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little.
>  
> Later...
> \  
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 15:18, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se 
> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>  
> Hi!
> I really not sure what is going on with my macbook air  2015.
> Catalina made it  speed up.
> Activity manager told me first that VOiceover was the culprit.
> But i have reset pram and smc and now Voiceover is not the culprit.
> 
> The activity manager gives no idea on what is going on.
> Logging out and waiting for several hours does not help.
> Maybe its time to buy a new one.
> Or i have to live with it.
> /A
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