Hello, well because laptops are so differently priced 3 years warranty  
is not enforced here I think, another problem is that of course macs  
are even more costly then they already are in the states because I  
think they must literally translate that dollar price into euros. But,  
imho especially the mac pros and macbook pros should at least come  
with 3 years warranty on parts.
Out of curiosity and ot: What work do you do?
Greetings, Anouk
On Nov 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

>
> Hi anouk,
>
> We have some of these similar problems here with our equipment
> funding.  Unfortunately the nature of the computer market is this.
> The average consumer wants to spend as little as possible on a
> computer, even if that means they will be buying a new computer once a
> year.  Consumers who want a high end computer that will last them 3
> years are a niche market.  This is especially when you consider that
> businesses who buy in bulk take the mass market approach.  Those guys
> are even worse.  Sure, They may buy 1000 computers every year or two,
> But they want to get a $600 computer for $400, and they still want fat
> warrantees on them.  When you build things cheep to undercut the other
> guys so you can sell more units and kater to the market, you get
> oodles of breakdowns and have to spend a bundle on service if you cant
> convince the buyer to just go out and get a new one.
>
> People like us who want well built systems to last us absorb the cost
> of servicing the cheep laptops.  This is much the same principal as
> voiceover.  Every one who buys a mac contributes to the development of
> voiceover, even though %95 of mac users have no infernal use for it
> what-so-ever.
>
> There is not a company here in north america who has a standard laptop
> warrantee longer than one year, for all the reasons stated above.
> Even Asus, which puts 3 years standard on it's desktop componants and
> builds superb quality laptops here, only provides one year on their
> laptop systems.  So our funding has to last for 5 years.  The best
> warrantee we can do is 3 years.  And we will be lucky if we still have
> a nice computer at the end of the day because they are just built
> cheep.  It's a real tough situation for resellers and funding
> authorizers, and it's terribly frustrating for clients.
>
> Here in North America, Apple is pretty competative with products lit
> dell studio and some of the mid range asus stuff.  The real money
> saver of an apple is the bsiness of not having to provide a screen
> reader.  Unfortunately we're duel booting windows on these products
> and providing jaws or window-eyes any way because many of our people
> already have so much money invested that they don't want to just ditch
> their abominably high priced windows kit.  So that kind'a defeats the
> purpose a bit but it will get there.
>
> Best,
> erik burggraaf
> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
> Phone: 888-255-5194
> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>
> On 2009-11-04, at 3:49 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello, I know that there are some unattached braille display
>> developers around, meaning that their braille displays are not linked
>> to screenreader software to windows. Lately I have been thinking  
>> about
>> how cool it would beif they could do a package deal on their braille
>> display and a mac laptop. In the netherlands if you are a schoolgoing
>> child or a student you get both a laptop, a screenreader and a  
>> braille
>> display from the state (actually the uwv, a company run by the state)
>> if you are a working person then your employer can ask the uwv for a
>> screenreader and a braille display and if you need stuff for home use
>> you need to ask your insurance company. So it owuld be really
>> beneficial for the uwv to have an option like the mac that would be a
>> lot cheaper then the options by optelec (bc640+hal) or freedom
>> scientific (i think their braille display is called focus and they of
>> course develop jaws) plus probbably a toshiba laptop. At least the
>> free developers could spread the know how about the mac system and
>> maybe translate stuff provide dutch support etc. I was planning to
>> write some people about this when I suddenly realized something. 1.
>> apple seems to be the sole distributor of macbooks etc and most
>> importantly 2. the very meager standard warranty and very high price
>> to buy more. If you get a laptop as a blind student in nl then you
>> have to use it for at least 3 years before you ask for a new one,
>> after 3 years you can ask for a new laptop and sometimes even a new
>> braille display although that term used to be 5 ears. So it is common
>> practice for companies to deliver the laptop with 3 years of warranty
>> so that has to be included in the total price.
>> I really hope that in the future apple iwll include more then 1 year
>> of warranty because on a lot of proiducts in europe you have AT LEAST
>> 2 years warranty as standard and at no extra cost.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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