Chris, although I disagree with you, can you possibly provide a reason why you would prefer a self-voicing application for a program such as Safari? Where is the advantage? On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
> By self voicing I mean, have it so that with voice over not running > the program would still speak right out of the box. In other words, > give the user the option of using voice over, or! being able to rely > on speech just within the program itself. Kind a like what happens > with the clock being self voicing upon the hr half hr or quarter, if > you set that up in universal access. Hince: you don't need vo > running for that to work. > > Chris. > : > > http://twitter.com/chris28210 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Pilkington > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: Understanding Blind User's Needs > > Hi Chris, > > I'm not 100% sure whether it is possible to detect whether the user > is using a braille display or not, but I'll definitely look into it. > If OS X doesn't allow me to give different descriptions to braille > devices I'll try and get in touch with developers at Apple to see if > they can add it in a future version. As for the self voicing > feature, I'm a little unsure what you mean. Could you give an > example of how it would be used and what it would do? > > My applications are already in Cocoa and it is indeed fairly easy to > make them voice over friendly, though the options to do this aren't > really front and centre so they can often be forgotten. Of course > not everything is quite as easy to make accessible, especially as I > use custom controls in places so these will require more work. > > As for magnification and high contrast modes, do the system wide > zoom and invert colours features not solve that problem? Some things > such as making text in some areas bigger and allowing users to > customise colours to give them a higher contrast are relatively > easy, but to do these for everything in an application would be > extremely difficult. These are more system wide features Apple would > need to do themselves in order to have them done right. > > Thanks for your feedback! > > --------------------------------- > Martin Pilkington > Writer of Weird Symbols > pi...@mcubedsw.com > > > On 9 Mar 2009, at 12:37 am, Chris Gilland wrote: > >> I think it would be cool to use the default voice set via system >> preferences and make it where the program can be self voiceing if >> needed. Also provide an option to turn on, or off the self voicing >> feature, this way if a user wants to use voice over, great, if not, >> he or she still can do what needs to be done. Also, I would make >> your labels for the U I, very discriptive but yet maybe slightly >> shorter for the interface that is viewed via a braille display. >> This way the point is made but only the absolutely necessary amount >> of cells are used, this way providing more room for other things, >> such as the value of the U I control. I may also advise you write >> your programs in cocoe as I hear that language is very very voice >> over friendly. Finally maybe provide an option for the program to >> be able to enable magnification in the program for low vision >> usersw. Also maybe provide an option to turn the programs U I >> color to high contrast. >> >> This way it even helps low vision users as well as us like myself >> who are nearly compltely total. >> >> Chris. >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
