On 16/01/2016 9:21 PM, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 07:15:20PM +1100, Tony Langdon wrote:
> 
>>> well, no. it's exactly what's happening in your situation: gmail is
>>> doing its own dupe-detection (presumably based on the Message-Id,
>>
>> Which is leading to inconsistent behaviour.  Gmail is filtering the
>> messages into the list, but only passing the direct copy on.  Net
>> result: inconsistent list behaviour, when seen from my end, because
>> the list is now a mixture of list and direct messages. :/
> 
> yes, but it's not a problem that the list or the list-admin can do
> anything about - it's completely outside of their control or influence.
> 
> you can add a filter rule to gmail so that if the msg is To: or CC:
> [email protected] then it gets saved in the luv-main folder.  That
> will get the direct messages that don't have the List-* headers.

That apparently seems to be the case, perhaps I did add such a filter
after list mail apparently "missed" the luv-main folder (because it was
actually direct mail, not via the list), and is the cause of the
apparent inconsistency, because as I said (again!) everything _looks_
like it's coming from the list.

But we do agree on one thing, the list administrator can't do anything
about this issue, it's a combination of common practice (usually by
persons with a brain dead MUA, but also some who see good reason to send
both list and direct mail), and gmail quirks that is the source of the
issue. :/
> 
> 
> about the only other thing you can do is have a .signature or similar
> asking people NOT to send you CCs of list mail. some people may even
> read it and follow your wishes.

Might be an interesting social experiment. :D

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