On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 04:30:47AM +0000, Russell Coker wrote:
> 
> Not at all.  The distributed and decentralised part of email is
> inherently not mailing lists.  By definition lists are centralised!

By that logic, either are mailbox providers, as they are also
centralised

> No it just means that you have to use other services.

Yes, a "reputable" one, as defined by what ever criteria some few large
corporations dictate.

> [...]

Which would still fail if corporations suddenly started dictating that
you must have a DMARC policy for your mail to be accepted.

> As for censorship, if you are worried about that then you probably
> shouldn't be using Gmail at all.

Agreed, we should all run our own mail services. Or at least, select
those with sane policies if we want to be uncensored.

> The real issue is that nothing we agree on matters much if Google and
> Yahoo don't agree.

Also agreed, pretty much what I was inferring with the hyperbole about
Internet nuetrality.

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