Trevor,
I am, indeed, using 2.18.2. I obviously should have mentioned that. Sorry!
I finally got it to work in such a way that it precisely mimics the
original:
[image: Inline images 1]
[image: Inline images 2]
I had to add a \hideNotes:
<<
{ s1 | \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 1.75 b1~ | b2 cis } \\
{ a1~ | <a a,>2 <g g,>4 <fis fis,> | <g g,>1 } \\
{ } \\
{ r2 a,~ | \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 0.75 \hideNotes a
\unHideNotes }
>>
Thanks again for your help!
Fred
On 8 October 2014 05:10, Trevor Daniels <t.dani...@treda.co.uk> wrote:
> Fred
>
> Did you not see my follow-up adding the A to reinstate the
> tie?
>
> Anyway, the correct solution depends on which version
> you're using. After adding back the A you might get
> a warning about clashing note columns, but only in
> version 2.18.
>
> Keith posted a patch to 2.19 which limits the warning about clashing
> note columns if the notes were actually too far apart to clash, as
> they are here. In 2.18 either use voice 4 rather than voice 3 (just
> insert another \\) or add \voiceFour to remove the warning.
>
> Trevor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Frederick Bartlett <frederick.bartl...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* LilyPond Users <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 2:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Overlapping ties in different voices
>
> I neglected to send this to the group .. sorry! Out of date anyway, since
> the a tie between mm 1 & 2 isn't working in Trevor's solution.
>
> Trevor,
>
> Your solution is what I was after. Thanks!
>
> But -- why 2 as the parameter for force-hshift? Doesn't that mean two
> notehead widths?
>
> For others -- I was looking for this:
>
> [image: Inline images 2]
> from
> IMSLP305644-PMLP30753-IMSLP252089-PMLP30753-Saint_Saens-Oratorio_de_Noel-Partition_Chant_et_Piano_-_scantailored.pdf,
> print page 9, PDF page 11.
>
> Thanks to all!
>
> Fred
>
> On 7 October 2014 18:25, Trevor Daniels <t.dani...@treda.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fred
>>
>> Here's the way I'd do it (if I've interpreted what you wanted correctly):
>>
>> \relative c''' <<
>>
>> { s1 |
>>
>> \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = 2
>>
>> b1~ | b2 cis | }
>>
>> \\
>>
>> { a1~ | <a a,>2 <g g,>4 <fis fis,> | <g g,>1 }
>>
>> \\
>>
>> { \voiceTwo r2 a,~ | }
>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> Trevor
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Frederick Bartlett <frederick.bartl...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* LilyPond Users <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:57 PM
>> *Subject:* Overlapping ties in different voices
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I'm trying to set selection from Saint-Saën's Oratorio de Noël for my
>> choir.
>> In the Gloria in altissimis (p9 in the IMSLP PDFs), I found an odd
>> combination of ties:
>> \relative c''' {
>> << { s1 | b1 ~ | b2 cis } \\
>> { a1 ~ | a2 s2 | s1 } \\
>> { \voiceTwo r2 a, ~ | a <g' g,>4 <fis fis,> | <g g,>1 }
>> >>
>> }
>> This peculiar mess is almost right; I just need to figure out how to
>> keep the b and a on the first beat of the second measure from colliding --
>> but no combination of \shiftOxxx and \once \override
>> NoteColumn.force-hshift that I've tried has answered the case. Leaving the
>> \voiceTwo command out prevents the collision -- but at the cost of getting
>> many other things wrong.
>>
>> To match the 19th-century original, the b should be shifted a notehead's
>> width right.
>>
>> Help?
>> Thanks!
>> Fred
>>
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