----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frederick Bartlett 
  To: LilyPond Users 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:57 PM
  Subject: Overlapping ties in different voices


  Hi!


  I'm trying to set selection from Saint-Saën's Oratorio de Noël for my choir.
  In the Gloria in altissimis (p9 in the IMSLP PDFs), I found an odd 
combination of ties:

  \relative c''' {
    << {           s1      | b1 ~                  | b2 cis  } \\
       {           a1 ~    | a2 s2                 | s1      } \\
       { \voiceTwo r2 a, ~ | a <g' g,>4 <fis fis,> | <g g,>1 }
    >>
  }

  This peculiar mess is almost right; I just need to figure out how to keep the 
b and a on the first beat of the second measure from colliding -- but no 
combination of \shiftOxxx and \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift that I've 
tried has answered the case. Leaving the \voiceTwo command out prevents the 
collision -- but at the cost of getting many other things wrong.


  To match the 19th-century original, the b should be shifted a notehead's 
width right.



  Help?

  Thanks!
  Fred





Fred,

If you define the voices as \voiceOne, \voiceFour and \voiceTwo that should 
work without the need for overrides.

Hope that helps,
Phil.



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