Problem is, neither of you know the truth. You are both talking shit based upon half truths, rumour, speculation, what someone said to someone's grannies uncles cousin. All you do know is what was spouted by different people trying to make themselves look better in the eyes of the public.
Even those that say on here time after self aggrandising time that they know the truth only know part of it. As far as I am concerned, I hope Wise becomes the best ever manager we have had and leads us to triumph after triumph and whilst he is manager and his players pull on the white shirt I will support them... If he buggers off somewhere else or gets sacked, then it's a different matter, he then becomes a little shit and the hopes and wishes go on to the next man. Get real here, as long as none of us have 50M to throw at a money sponge or as long as no one comes in who has the piles of cash to risk on Leeds becoming big again, we have to build slowly bit by bit. Maybe Bates isn't the right man, but who from all those consortiums (Lust, Morris included) actually stepped up to the mark and saved Leeds. None of them.. Bates did.. Maybe not for the same reasons as we wanted, but without him the advert in the future would not have been Accrington Who? But Leeds Who? Bates and Wise is who we have and all those supposed consortiums that Lust and others have been self aggrandising on the media about aint gonna get anywhere as Bates and his mates are 65-70% of the creditors, so the most vote they could ever get in Admin from the creditors is 30-35%, which is less than half of what they need to get a creditor approval. As far as the other crap I have seen on here and other places about no one wanting to work with Bates. That's as much about ego as anything else. Just like Levi, Krasner, Bates and the Riddler, they all wanna be the big man and make the lions share of the money or gain the most cudos. If they cared about Leeds, they would want to be PART of the success, not the be all and end all of it and would take a share.. Lower your expectations, drop the false hopes because John Wayne aint gonna come over the horizon, shoot all the bad guys and make the world lovely again. That happens in films, not real life. Whoever we get Bates, or someone Bates sells to does not give a fuck about you or I, all they care about is their bank balance and ego. Nuf Said, Rant Over Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of damian.walsh Sent: 09 May 2007 19:28 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LU] Revelations or Allegations (take your pick...) Just because you shoot your mouth off doesn't make you honest. Attacking someone in their sleep in fundamentally dishonest, lying in court is fundamentally dishonest. To me, to have such a track record suggests that a person is fundamentally dishonest. I just wouldn't trust the word of such a person over anybody else. It's nothing to do with being a "thug". FWIW I don't think that Wise is a thug anyway - I think he's too much of a coward FWIW2 I do think that Wise brought about some improvements over Blackwell, but you must have noticed that in the end he did absolutely no better and for that he has to go. FWIW3 Nowt to do with being a little sht at all ;)) Damian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Humphries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree he needs more self control and should think before he speaks, but I make allowances for him because I think that although his actions/words are sometimes ill conceived, actually his principles are spot on. ..... He is famous for calling a spade a spade, and to your face. That's not what liars tend to do in my experience. _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..." _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..."
