https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399375
--- Comment #16 from Martin Flöser <mgraess...@kde.org> --- Guys, I don't care about industry standards. I can show 10 different industry standards. The only thing you present here is "my industry standard is more important than all other users". That's not a position from where we can start. It's not about who got the shortcut first or for whom it is more important. It's about how can we both use it. The behavior in KWin is also an industry standard- an X11 Standard, an Unix Standard. David already mentioned openbox, I throw in fluxbox (http://fluxbox.org/help/man-fluxbox.php) as an example for an even older window manager. Also Compiz (http://wiki.compiz.org/CommonKeyboardShortcuts) uses it and has also a shortcut for meta+lmb defined. The thing is: we are both right, it is our industry standard and we have both the right and the need for it. Asking you to change won't work, asking us to change won't work. So can we please stop the absolute position about KWin being wrong and has to change? Good, thank you! We are not going to worsen the user experience for the needs of a subgroup of users. You are not the only group of users demanding that their field is more important than all others. We cannot suite all and still have a good product. The problem is not that we use Alt. The problem is that modifier clicks can not be taken by the application. We can work on that but it'll require Krita to change code. If you are not willing to adapt Krita than we can stop the discussion. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.