I read selected parts of ESR's essay this weekend.

The underlying concepts can be tied in with those from his other works. 
 This exercise has me concerned frankly.

ESR's opening concept: since geeks are used to learning from 
documentation, and effective at applying what they've learned this way, 
let's provide them with documentation on success in sex; this should 
also work for them.  

Assume this is true.  It implies that the method used to get sex, or 
girlfriends, or a wife, etc.. is programmatic.  I.e. this things are 
predictable and can be behaviourally controlled, and that humans can be 
trained to do them.  This is a depressing viewpoint coming from an 
anarchistic thinker such as ESR.

[My apologies for using the gender bias from this essay.]

Should we encourage anarchistic free thinking and at the same time 
assume as individuals that other people can be easily manipulated 
behaviouristically.  Scary.

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: FW: Re: [issues] ESR's Sex Tips for Geeks

On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Rick Scott wrote:

> Seeing as I know a lot of people (myself included) don't read
> Slashdot on anything approaching a regular basis, I was wondering
> if anyone had anything to say about:
> 
> http://tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/sextips/

since no one else has taken this one up...I seem to recall, when first
finidng this page some time ago, sending it to a friend (who may out
herself if she wishes) with a very derogatory comment that probably
shoudln't be repeated on-list.

However, this was after I met ESR in person, and his attitude towards
women left a lot to be desired, imo -- don't get me wrong, I deeply
respect his geekhood and his geek politics, but something tells me that
putting me and him in a room together to discuss gender issues would 
cause
a scene reminiscent of "The Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat"

V.(being civil..well, trying to anyway, since he isn't here to defend
himself)


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