On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Susannah Rosenberg wrote:
> 
> > Not everyone tries to make themselves desirable to those they're
> > sexually interested in; at least, not consciously.
> 
> Some of us have made a deliberate point of being OUTSIDE as much of the
> norms as possible *because* we didn't like the sexist attention. Thus, I
> don't even think the statement that we optimize for attractiveness is
> true. (Unless, of course, you consider that I was deliberately trying to
> alienate the one group....)

*nod* i've found that being "one of the guys"--- wearing jeans or khakis,
sport shirts (cotton, non-flannel), and boots--- gets me places with
technical people that I wouldn't get if i dressed more "feminine". 
I've discussed this with my butch acquaintances and they've found the same
thing. 

For some reason, there's a prevailing assumption that feminine =
non-technical. Either that,  or male geeks get along better with people
like them....

srl

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Shane Renee Landrum
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